In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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Did you get a Colt or a Bushmaster? I bought a shortie cabine from
Bushmaster because of the chrome lined
barrel. What length barrel? Do you have a flash supressor? what
stock? what top?

I bought a Bushmaster 16" carbine "Patrolman" model with the A3 top,
collapsible stock. Yes it has a flash supressor.

..... which makes it longer than an 18" barrelled shotgun. Good choice.

I didn't like the
idea of a pinned and welded supressor on the 14" "shorty" model. I'm
looking at optics at the moment.

Yep, just what you need for home defence, optics.....

I liked Bushmaster for the chrome
lined barrel, ability to shoot 5.56 and it's known quality
construction. I didn't like the fact Colt uses non standard pins which
would make swapping stuff impossible. I got a hellava deal from a
kitchen table FFL dealer in Virginia. $860. MSRP was $1230.

I paid only $140 some years back for a new-in-the-box, Russian-made 7.62x39
SSK. It's got a pivoting bayonet, and I bought five 30-round magazines for
it, plus a case of Wolf (Russian) ammo--Berdan-primed, so picking up brass
is a non-issue.

As a defense piece, it blows your AR-15 away in all respects, excepting
compactness. However I can obtain an aftermarket collapsible stock for it,
if I really felt it were a necessity, which I don't.

Been there, too, Max. I have memories of shooting feral goats thru the
chest at less than 50m with one of those, using FMJ ex-mil ammo. Waste
of time, you needed to hit them multiple times before they fell over. I
bought it to play with and traded it when I got tired of it. Ditto with
a toy M1 carbine. A SAFN 30-06 was somewhat more effective.

I assume you have more sense than to use FMJ on humans.

OTOH the Ruger 44Mag carbine with 240gr JHP was a one shot drop every
time, as was a 6mm Rem with 85gr Sierra SP at 3300 fps for the longer
ranges. We used to shoot the crap out of mobs of feral goats at close
range until the survivors learnt better, then snipe them across the
ridges until they decided it was healthier back in the national park.

Where I live I dont' expect to ever need to shoot at people, and don't
plan on spending any time thinkng about it. However I know what guns
I'd be using and they'd be those that most efficiently killed animals
of approx the same size/weight.

PDW