jps wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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Tim Tisdale wrote:

It is a natural thing for businesses to want to increase productivity
while lowering costs.

Read this, it makes sense.

Sure it does. But since making sense is often diametrically opposed to
the liberal's sense of emotional satisfaction, they do not accept it.

Listen up Dave. My company once created a simulation for the Federal
Reserve Bank. They wanted a "game" that would show people the relationship
between fiscal and monetary policy.

Everytime I put a Republican in front of the interface, they'd continue to
hit the "Lower Taxes" button until inflation went through the roof and their
constituents threw them out of office.

I'm sure they did it as a gag, since proper planning for government
spending is much more than a single simple act. Besides, this game was
designed to operate around the limited conditions and parameters, of the
person who programmed it. They do not necessarily respond the same as
the unpredicatable variables, and dynamics of reality. If you could
accurately predict economic stimulous and conditions, then you'd be
bigger than Alan Greenspan. Most of this stuff is smoke and mirrors, and
exercises in reflection.


Marx was wrong in that he failed to make a connection between " from
each according to their ability " and "to each according
to their need ". Sounds good on paper but where is the incentive to
increase productivity. This is an outline to create a nation of
free-riders. Why work hard when your benefits are fixed and any
increase in your own productivity will only go to provide for
those who are not working as hard?

Exactly! That has been my biggest flaw with socialism. There is no
incentive to better oneself. The end result is a nation of mediocrity.
Competition is what drives us to be better. it's what placed this nation
at the forefront of technology. Socialism would condemn this nation to
third world status in a generation.

Dave, I hate to break it to you but we are capitalists, not socialists.

Really? Then why do you favor the redistribution of wealth from the
"rich" to cover "the poor" by an unfairly biased progressive tax plan?
Why do you guys on the left want to raise the wages for unskilled
workers, beyond what the free market dictates they should be worth?
That's not capitalism. You can't mix the two. The current healthcase
crisis, is a prime example of what heppens when you try an originally
capitalist enterprise (Healthcare) with socialism (Insurance subsidies).
The result is spiraling costs as the care providers are free to raise
their prices, since the subsidies cover the increases, and the common
citizen does not have to deal with it, therefore there is no market
pressure to put a lid on rising costs. Take away all healthcare
insurance, and how long do you think the free market could support those
high costs?


I don't want to give away everything I've earned.

But you have no problem telling other people how much of their pay they
"need" to contribute to programs which *YOU* feel are beneficial.


I just want to make certain
we're investing in things that have value. Not smart bombs, smart people.
Not smart prisoners, productive taxpayers. Not nation building, consensus
building.

That would make a great democratic sound byte. Full of fluff, but at the
core, really no substance. It makes no effort to explain the casues of
our problems, and indeed, implies that the solution to many of our
social ill's, is just to throw money at it. A typcial democratic
attitude.


Get with it Dave. We're no more in favor of Karl Marx than you are. We're
in favor of doing the right thing and giving everyone an opportunity to
succeed.

Which of course, is subjective, and based upon your particular view of
what's "right".


Your party wants to keep all the money in one place and they use
stupid, beer swillin', poorly educated idiots to gather the votes to do it.

Here's where you really become stereotypical and inconsistant. If "my
party" is the party of the rich, and we want to "horde" all the money,
then why would the beer swilling idiots be a party to it? Those poorly
educated idiots are normally the fodder for democratic votes. Democrats
promise these individuals free money to "help" them, and they vote for
it. If they were in a higher wage earning income bracket, who actually
had to PAY for these programs, they wouldn't be too happy to see more of
their paycheck shrinking.


Get a clue Dave. Leave the dark side and their selfish ways.

There is nothing selfish about wanting to keep what you rightfully EARN.
Everyone else has the same opportunity to make something better of
themselves. So go do it.

Dave