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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
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Let me start by apologizing to you Jean. I let my deep
seated anger towards US Sailing spill over into my
response to you. You seemed to represent US Sailing
so I directed my anger towards you. My behavior was
rude and unacceptable--unbecoming of an officer. Please
accept my sincere, humble, apology for my rude behavior.

In my defense, I can only state that I have sound

reasons
for my enmity towards US Sailing. I'd be happy to

relate
them to you.

I hold US Sailing's keelboat training organization in

contempt.
To a lesser degree, I hold the management of US Sailing

in
contempt for not fixing the many problems they have

within
the organization. Based on my experience, Sail Training

is
much less important to US Sailing relative to it's root

activities
in racing.

These things have nothing to do with you, or the fine

job US
Sailing does with respect to the US Olympics, their

small boat
training program, or their excellent work in the area of

racing.

One beef I have is that US Sailing does not represent

sailing
instructors. The people that run the program represent

the
commercial sailing schools.

For example the present US Sailing Training Chairman

owns a
sailing school. I have a degree of respect for him in

that he started
the program and along with the owners of several other

sailing
schools. The majority the IT's were picked from these

sailing
schools without a standards based selection process. So

now
you have a situation where, a few commerical sailing

school
owners control the US Sailing Training Program. Many of

the
IT's are close minded and assumed. The title IT gives

them an
arrogant air and my experience is they refuse to accept

any opinion but
there own.

While US Sailing is Non-Profit. Sail Training is being

run by
individuals who own For-Profit concerns. It is clear

their
motivations are biased.

This profound bias is the underlying cause for many of

the
complaints I have with US Sailing. Unqualifed people

have been
put in charge of training programs. The egos of some of

these
people put their own opinions ahead of the standards

that have
been developed. Any outside suggestions are now shoved

aside.
Many instructors I know, have given up on trying to

reason with
this unwieldy buracracy.

I've witnessed situations where co-IT's have disagreed

on
training methods. I've seens some of these ego-centric

instructor
demand instructor candidates follow and be evaluated on

their
methods, in direct contradiction to documented US Sailng

procedures.

I've seen blantant favoritism given towards one

individual. On
the other hand, I was chastized by two IT's for simply

demanding
equal fair treatment. After this I was hounded by one

IT for
the rest of the course. My repeated attempt to discuss

this
matter with US Sailing official fell on deaf ears. I

never recieved
the refund I demanded.

I feel the Man-Overboard diagram in the US Sailing

manual
needs to be changed. Three years ago I wrote the

President
of US Sailing about this and was brushed off. I

recently
brought the subject up again and it was quashed again.

It is
important enough that I feel it deserves more study.

Don't
you agree that potentially life saving safety issues

should be
reviewed with an open mind, and given an opportunity to
for more than a brief review?

Each time I've raised an issue through proper channels

with
US Sailing, I have been brushed off, ignored and treated

with
contempt. The single time I've gotten a response from

US Sailing
was when I wrote an letter to the editor submitting US

Sailing for
a Moosehead Award. And in this case I again felt

brushed off,
and was never given the formal written response that was
promised to me by the Training Chair.

US Sailing is reluctant to put anything in writing

because like any
bureacracy the staff is playing CYA.

I spent a career in the US Air Force where integrity,

and a
standard of excellence was the norm. My experience with

US
Sailing is that of a bumbling bureaucracy unwilling to

take a hard
look at itself to fix's it's own problems. Until they

do I shall
speak out and let the world know that US Sailing is not

lily
white, not God's gift to sailing, and inept with respect

to their
sail training program.

I want to thank you also for making it clear to me that

I should
continue my crusade against US Sailing. I shall reopen

my dialog
with US Sailing and press my issues.

US Sailing versus ASA

I still feel that US Sailings Keelboat program is

virtually
identical to the ASA program for the reasons I stated

earlier.
I don't see how you cannot agree with me on this point
given the material, course content, course names, and

the
identical RYA source of each program.
I hold US Sailing's keelboat training organization in

contempt.
To a lesser degree, I hold the management of US Sailing

in
contempt for not fixing the many problems they have

within
the organization. Based on my experience, Sail Training

is
much less important to US Sailing relative to it's root

activities
in racing.

These things have nothing to do with you, or the fine

job US
Sailing does with respect to the US Olympics, their

small boat
training program, or their excellent work in the area of

racing.

One beef I have is that US Sailing does not represent

sailing
instructors. The people that run the program represent

the
commercial sailing schools.

For example the present US Sailing Training Chairman

owns a
sailing school. I have a degree of respect for him in

that he started
the program and along with the owners of several other

sailing
schools. The majority the IT's were picked from these

sailing
schools without a standards based selection process. So

now
you have a situation where, a few commerical sailing

school
owners control the US Sailing Training Program. Many of

the
IT's are close minded and assumed. The title IT gives

them an
arrogant air and my experience is they refuse to accept

any opinion but
there own.

While US Sailing is Non-Profit. Sail Training is being

run by
individuals who own For-Profit concerns. It is clear

their
motivations are biased.

This profound bias is the underlying cause for many of

the
complaints I have with US Sailing. Unqualifed people

have been
put in charge of training programs. The egos of some of

these
people put their own opinions ahead of the standards

that have
been developed. Any outside suggestions are now shoved

aside.
Many instructors I know, have given up on trying to

reason with
this unwieldy buracracy.

I've witnessed situations where co-IT's have disagreed

on
training methods. I've seens some of these ego-centric

instructor
demand instructor candidates follow and be evaluated on

their
methods, in direct contradiction to documented US Sailng

procedures.

I've seen blantant favoritism given towards one

individual. On
the other hand, I was chastized by two IT's for simply

demanding
equal fair treatment. After this I was hounded by one

IT for
the rest of the course. My repeated attempt to discuss

this
matter with US Sailing official fell on deaf ears. I

never recieved
the refund I demanded.

I feel the Man-Overboard diagram in the US Sailing

manual
needs to be changed. Three years ago I wrote the

President
of US Sailing about this and was brushed off. I

recently
brought the subject up again and it was quashed again.

It is
important enough that I feel it deserves more study.

Don't
you agree that potentially life saving safety issues

should be
reviewed with an open mind, and given an opportunity to
for more than a brief review?

Each time I've raised an issue through proper channels

with
US Sailing, I have been brushed off, ignored and treated

with
contempt. The single time I've gotten a response from

US Sailing
was when I wrote an letter to the editor submitting US

Sailing for
a Moosehead Award. And in this case I again felt

brushed off,
and was never given the formal written response that was
promised to me by the Training Chair.

US Sailing is reluctant to put anything in writing

because like any
bureacracy the staff is playing CYA.

I spent a career in the US Air Force where integrity,

and a
standard of excellence was the norm. My experience with

US
Sailing is that of a bumbling bureaucracy unwilling to

take a hard
look at itself to fix's it's own problems. Until they

do I shall
speak out and let the world know that US Sailing is not

lily
white, not God's gift to sailing, and inept with respect

to their
sail training program.

I want to thank you also for making it clear to me that

I should
continue my crusade against US Sailing. I shall reopen

my dialog
with US Sailing and press my issues.

US Sailing versus ASA

I still feel that US Sailings Keelboat program is

virtually
identical to the ASA program for the reasons I stated

earlier.
I don't see how you cannot agree with me on this point
given the material, course content, course names, and

the
identical RYA source of each program.

I will agree with you that ASA is not involved in

community
sailing. I am not aware of any community program that

uses
keelboats, except for the US Navy's Morale Welfare and
Recreational organization, which is specifically

designed for
Active Duty US Military and Retirees, and supported by
US Navy funding. I do not know of any other community
progarm that uses small boats. I hold US Sailing's

keelboat training organization in contempt.
To a lesser degree, I hold the management of US Sailing

in
contempt for not fixing the many problems they have

within
the organization. Based on my experience, Sail Training

is
much less important to US Sailing relative to it's root

activities
in racing.

These things have nothing to do with you, or the fine

job US
Sailing does with respect to the US Olympics, their

small boat
training program, or their excellent work in the area of

racing.

One beef I have is that US Sailing does not represent

sailing
instructors. The people that run the program represent

the
commercial sailing schools.

For example the present US Sailing Training Chairman

owns a
sailing school. I have a degree of respect for him in

that he started
the program and along with the owners of several other

sailing
schools. The majority the IT's were picked from these

sailing
schools without a standards based selection process. So

now
you have a situation where, a few commerical sailing

school
owners control the US Sailing Training Program. Many of

the
IT's are close minded and assumed. The title IT gives

them an
arrogant air and my experience is they refuse to accept

any opinion but
there own.

While US Sailing is Non-Profit. Sail Training is being

run by
individuals who own For-Profit concerns. It is clear

their
motivations are biased.

This profound bias is the underlying cause for many of

the
complaints I have with US Sailing. Unqualifed people

have been
put in charge of training programs. The egos of some of

these
people put their own opinions ahead of the standards

that have
been developed. Any outside suggestions are now shoved

aside.
Many instructors I know, have given up on trying to

reason with
this unwieldy buracracy.

I've witnessed situations where co-IT's have disagreed

on
training methods. I've seens some of these ego-centric

instructor
demand instructor candidates follow and be evaluated on

their
methods, in direct contradiction to documented US Sailng

procedures.

I've seen blantant favoritism given towards one

individual. On
the other hand, I was chastized by two IT's for simply

demanding
equal fair treatment. After this I was hounded by one

IT for
the rest of the course. My repeated attempt to discuss

this
matter with US Sailing official fell on deaf ears. I

never recieved
the refund I demanded.

I feel the Man-Overboard diagram in the US Sailing

manual
needs to be changed. Three years ago I wrote the

President
of US Sailing about this and was brushed off. I

recently
brought the subject up again and it was quashed again.

It is
important enough that I feel it deserves more study.

Don't
you agree that potentially life saving safety issues

should be
reviewed with an open mind, and given an opportunity to
for more than a brief review?

Each time I've raised an issue through proper channels

with
US Sailing, I have been brushed off, ignored and treated

with
contempt. The single time I've gotten a response from

US Sailing
was when I wrote an letter to the editor submitting US

Sailing for
a Moosehead Award. And in this case I again felt

brushed off,
and was never given the formal written response that was
promised to me by the Training Chair.

US Sailing is reluctant to put anything in writing

because like any
bureacracy the staff is playing CYA.

I spent a career in the US Air Force where integrity,

and a
standard of excellence was the norm. My experience with

US
Sailing is that of a bumbling bureaucracy unwilling to

take a hard
look at itself to fix's it's own problems. Until they

do I shall
speak out and let the world know that US Sailing is not

lily
white, not God's gift to sailing, and inept with respect

to their
sail training program.

I want to thank you also for making it clear to me that

I should
continue my crusade against US Sailing. I shall reopen

my dialog
with US Sailing and press my issues.

US Sailing versus ASA

I still feel that US Sailings Keelboat program is

virtually
identical to the ASA program for the reasons I stated

earlier.
I don't see how you cannot agree with me on this point
given the material, course content, course names, and

the
identical RYA source of each program.

I will agree with you that ASA is not involved in

community
sailing. I am not aware of any community program that

uses
keelboats, except for the US Navy's Morale Welfare and
Recreational organization, which is specifically

designed for
Active Duty US Military and Retirees, and supported by
US Navy funding. I do not know of any other community
progarm that uses small boats.
I will agree with you that ASA is not involved in

community
sailing. I am not aware of any community program that

uses
keelboats, except for the US Navy's Morale Welfare and
Recreational organization, which is specifically

designed for
Active Duty US Military and Retirees, and supported by
US Navy funding. I do not know of any other community
progarm that uses small boats.

In the narrow area of what ASA does, keelboat training,

US
Sailing's program is no different. US Sailing

certifying keelboat
schools are, in fact, commercial ventures.

Can you give me one good reason why instructor and

student
certifications from ASA should not be accepted in US

Sailing?

In the area of Keelboat Training. How is US Sailing

different
than ASA given that the owners of US Sailing certifed

commerical
sailing schools control US Sailing keelboat training

program to the
same degree as ASA?

CONGRESS

I was unaware that Congress granted US Sailing the Title
of Governing Body of the Sport. I still feel strongly

that it
an unfair competitive advantage Congress has given to US
Sailing over the ASA. Congress should specifically

exclude
this title in the area of keelboat training as this

gives an unfair
competitive advantage to US Sailing keelboat training

schools.
Thanks for making me aware of this.

While I am not in favor of ASA in particular, I shall be

sure to
write my representatives to discuss this matter with

them.

In any event, if this title is ever disputed by ASA in

the courts,
and I sincerely hope they do so, I feel confident this

point would
be legally overturned for the reasons I've stated.

Have you ever worked in a large corporation?


Have you ever heard of 'snipping'?

SV