Gene Kearns wrote:
On 1 Apr 2004 04:54:59 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.
I think this is the point you missed. Nobody is talking about burning
50:1. The suggestion was to put about a gallon of 50:1 per refuel in
the family van. That is taking 5 gallons of 50:1 and mixing it with
probably another 120 gallons. So, 125 gallons of fuel and .1 oz of
oil yields about a 12,500:1 mix. While I wouldn't try running 50:1
through any 4 stroke I have, I don't think that 12,500:1 is going to
hurt anything.
There are Continental aircraft engines, carbureted and fuel injected,
that constantly run on a diet of low ratio mixes of 2-stroke oil. I've
never heard of any problems associated with the use and those people
that employ this method swear that it eliminates valve sticking. And
yes, before anyone notices, it isn't legal to do so... ditto Marvel
Mystery Oil for the round engine crowd... but it is done.
Amazing that this much angst can be released over .1 ounce of oil.
I am sorry, Gene, but the fact is that I HAVE been advocating the use of
running 50:1, or richer, 5 or 6 gallons at a time, or straight up on an
empty tank, in the family vehicle. You won't notice it at all, the
vehicle won't notice it, and it's the best economical/ecological way to
use up questionable fuel from a prior season, or fuel that you may not
be sure is mixed to the proper ratio. I've been doing it since the
early 1970's in every car or truck we've ever owned.
Realistically, though, I have rarely had "bad gas", but I have used fuel
bordering on varnish with no ill effects (I found a 6 gal outboard can
that I forgot about for a few years - I just dumped it into our fuel
injected Aerostar). I have never used a Stabil-type product either - I
just like to have two fresh tanks on the outboards at the beginning of
the season and sometimes use the old gas in the cars. On the inboards,
we just fill the tanks in the fall at storage time - no additives.
As to the legality issue, this is new to me. The label on the car says
"Unleaded Fuel Only". It's unleaded. The owner's manuals discourage
non-OEM additives, of course. AutoZone, Advance, & all the others sell
lots of the stuff though.
Rob