The "Practical" sailor?
Capt. JG wrote:
Come on Jim... every time you type something, you're supplying us with
facts. That's simple logic and even the owner of a wonderful MacrapM would
know that. Are you sure you own one?
Fortunately, I'm allowed to waste my time any way I want. Isn't America
great!
You're right, though. The only way to back up my assertions that they are
pieces of garbage, designed for novice sailors who don't know better, would
be to own one myself. Well, I guess you've got me there!
Please show me where I've ever said that they fall apart by the hundreds or
their crew perish in winds over 15 kts. The fact that they're cheaply built
and sail poorly (sorry, just what I've observed) says absolutely nothing
about them being appropriate for some people.
Capt. JG wrote:
JG, please show me where I said that you said the Macs fall apart by
the hundreds,or that their crew perish in winds over 15 kts. - What I
did say, of course, was:
"JG, IF the Macs are that bad, and everyone knows it, why are you
wasting all this time and cyberspace? ...... Actually, you have been
having a great old time bashing the Mac26M, but so far, you haven't
come up with anything at all to back up all your assertions. ARE THEY
falling apart by the hundreds all over the world JG? ARE THEIR OWNERS
AND CREWS PERISHING if they happen to sail in winds over 15 knots? If
so, why not give us some news reports or independent accounts about
all this carnage. "
So if, as you keep saying, the Macs are "junk" or, "a pretend
sailboat," or "a lousy boat at rip-off prices," etc., then why aren't
they falling apart by the hundreds, and why aren't their crews
perishing in anything over moderate winds? - As I have said, I don't
consider them suitable for extended blue water crossings or the like.
But since there are thousands of them on the water (Particularly
since they are one of the most popular sailboat ever made and are
sailed in all kinds of conditions), and if your assertions were
correct, surely there would be hundreds of them breaking apart in even
moderate weather conditions. To the contrary, if you check any of the
Mac discussion groups you will note many owners who have been sailing
their Macs for years in a variety of conditions, have sailed other
boats, and,when they finally trade in their boats, often choose
another Mac.
From what you have said, you haven't even sailed any of the recent
models of the Mac26 (e.g., the Mac 26M). Again, you really don't have
any first-hand experience with the 26M's, and the nearest experience
you have with ANY Macs were several anecdotes about Macs that seemed
to be having some type of difficulty in SFbay. (And who on this ng
hasn't had "difficulties" in some sailing conditions?)
In other words, it's obvious that you really don't have anything to
back up your statements about the Macs, JG. - Stupid remarks like:
"They junk and look like it" don't contribute anything useful to the
ng; they don't help anyone; and they generally short-circuit what
might become a balanced, potentially helpful discussion.
Or are you just another troll JG, as Joe noted?
Jim
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