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This the first time I have ever seriously perused a list of many PHRF
ratings and Robs boat really isnt that fast compared to some, even if
you consider size it isnt exceptional. It isnt a slug but isnt a
rocket either. My old S2 is about where I would expect compared to
other simialr size racer cruisers of its time, a tad batter than most
but nothing I'd ever notice.

Well, you'd notice if the boats were alongside. However, the
ratings assume the boats are well sailed, well prepared (ie
not lugging around tons of cruising gear, good sails, smooth
bottom, etc etc), and tuned up. Most boats could not sail to
their PHRF rating without a fair amount of money & work
being expended on them.

... I expected the Morgan OI to be so slow as
to not even be on the list but an OI 33 is about 222.

Any boat that gets raced often enough for numbers to be
submitted to a local handicapping committee should be on the
list.

..... Even the
supposedly really good Norsea27 is considered to be slow but it is
really more cruiser. Apparently, there are some really fast boats out
there but I bet they would make lousy cruisers.

Depends on what you want in a cruiser. Modern designs can be
startling fast and provide a fair amount of room, but one
thing that is guaranteed to slow a boat down is weight. The
modern speedsters tend to be bouncy rides. And if you start
adding hot& cold pressure water, expanded battery bank, etc
etc, for all those little home-like comforts, it doesn't go
faster.

.... I am sure all of you
know this but this is the first time I have ever seen an extensive list
of phrf (mostly due to lack of interest).

One of the cool things about sailing is that it is so many
different sports in one.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King