" JimH" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you
don't
trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat
more
businesslike, and they really do check things carefully.

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CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader
par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad
experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software,
at
least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your
computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing.


If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware,
John.
What firewall do you use?


I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested
the
program to
be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been
pretty
lucky.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound*
nasties?
The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff.


McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can
do. You can
allow or block inbound or outbound or both.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****



A firewall alone will not stop spyware.

Recommended programs to install:

Spydefense
Microsoft Antispyware
SpywareBlaster
Adaware
Spybot

The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You
manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions.

I believe all are free.


It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to
stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It
was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made.
Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of
spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot.