I thought AA has been effective helping alcoholics, and that goes back to
before there were "rehab clinics".




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:59:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:03:34 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote:
JohnH,

There are 12 step groups for just about everything. I looked in
Google for a 12 step group for NPD and found there are support groups
for the victims of NPD, but those with the illness rarely seek help.
One of the problems mentioned is those with NPD would always try to
take advantage the other members of the group.
More amateur hour? If you fell seriously ill with multiple symptoms
and had no idea what was causing them, would you seek professional
help or would you start playing guessing games with the data on
internet sites?

Sometimes a 12-step program will provide the support an addict needs,
but that addict also will need therapy and other assistance.
12-stepping is no substitute for therapy.
You've much to learn 12-step programs.

The question was whether or not a 12-step program helped disorders
*other* than addictions. Although
not specifically addressed, the question of NPD was answered by Reggie.
Do you have other
information?
--
John Herring
I would agree that 12-step programs help *some* sufferers of various
addictions with support. The "addiction" 12-step programs are support
groups.

That's better.
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Better? It's no different than my original position. All the 12-step
programs offer is support. It takes a lot more than "support" for most
addicts to kick their habits.

Are you a graduate of a 12-step support group?



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