On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:52:18 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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...by the sky marshals may turn out to be a horrific mistake on their
part.

Too many witnesses are contradicting the marshals' description of the
deceased's on-board behavior.



BS. The guy was bi-polar. In a manic stage, and was probably suicide by
cop/sky marshal. We will probably see more of this, as the sky marshal
has less time to make a decision. If a guy says he has a bomb and
reaches into his duffle, I say shoot fast and true. It may be a mistake,
but I would rather the Suicide by Cop, than have the real bomb go off,
because of a wait time.
Yes, several of the fellow's survivors say he suffered from bipolar
disorder, and there have been reports he was "off" his mood stabilizers.
But we don't know the latter for fact, do we?

You haven't a clue as to his state of mind before or during the shooting,
and for you to claim the fellow wanted to die via cop suicide is absurd.

Something happened, we don't know what for sure, beyond the shooting.
Witnesses from the plane are contradicting the sky cops.

We've had enough examples of cops killing by mistake. I am not saying this
case is an example of that. But it could be, and that is what my post
stated.

Harry, no matter what, it's tragic. But, I think sky marshalls have to base
fast decisions on outward appearances. The guy didn't stop, drop his
belongings and show his hands when they told him to. IIRC, he was running
into the building. What would you have done? Let him keep going toward a
crowd of people just to see if he actually had a bomb or maybe a weapon? Let
him detonate something on the walkway thing that's 20-50 feet from a wing
filled with jet fuel?



I'd like to know how anyone thought he could sneak a bomb on board a
US-flag airliner on a flight boarding in south Florida. Remember, the
guy had arrived earlier on a different flight from Quito, Ecuador.
Ecuador. As in heavy-duty carry on bag examination for drugs.

The last time I flew, every passenger and every passenger's luggage was
carefully scrutinized. Everyone's shoes were examined. Every piece of
carry-on luggage was viewed, and all bags were opened. My wife flies
around the country frequently, and she and everyone else on every flight
is subjected to the same sorts of searches.

So this fellow gets on a plane at a major US airport, one known to be
used by drug carriers, after going through security, and the sky
marshals think they hear him say he has a bomb, and as he runs off the
plane onto the jetway, they fire five shots at him? What would they do
if when confronted another guy pulls out his wallet? Will they shoot
him, too? That happened, you know. In NYC.

Well, I am sure there will be an investigation. I hope it is an honest one.

The marshall should have your post in his back pocket, Harold. Then when someone says, "I have a
bomb in here" and reaches into the bag, the marshall could take out your post and read it before
doing anything.

Sounds as good as any plan Kerry has come up with for solving the world's problems.

--
John H

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