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Default OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming

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NOYB wrote:

NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY
TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY

Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of
heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the
Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or
perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring
cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called
"the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to
30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences
alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above
normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the
tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane
activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming.

http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm


NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the
study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air
remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the
industrial age that correlates with warming trends?


I saw a study that says we have the highest CO2 levels in 650,000 years.
But as for the upward trend during the industrial age correlating with
warming trends? Not a scientific conclusion. We don't have any
accurate temperature data older than about 130 years. We don't know
except in very indirect ways (tree rings come to mind) what the
temperatures were 650,000 years ago. So we only have half the graph
filled in.

We know we have had some very cold spells (the so-called "mini-ice-age"
when the Thames froze over and underwear was invented - just watch James
Burke) and very warm times when crops grew in Greenland, within
historical records. So far, all the data I've seen correlates better
with sun-spot cycles than with atmospheric CO2 content but I haven't
actually seen the new CO2 ice-core data.

Why is it so hard to accept that these hurricanes are part of natural
cycle? I realize the people whose grants rely on the study of climate
change/global warming were probably ****ing themselves with glee when
yet another tropical storm started up over the Atlantic today, but don't
you feel just a little better knowing that New Orleans disappearing
really isn't your fault or fault of your SUV driving neighbour?