Whew... that's not fun.

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"j" ganz @@
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Do you really think anyone believes your "I bought it for half price
and then sold it for triple" stories? Gawd, what a jackass!

Uh, this is your response to the boats that were "raced hard?"

No. It was a response to your claim that you paid less than what was paid
for all the bene's that had fallen apart already.

And speaking of falling apart, how's this for that warm and fuzzy feeling?
http://www.beneteau235.com/f235_rudder.htm



Gee, I think doing 12 to 14 knots for a few hours straight is a lot
of
fun. So is doing 100 miles in a day.

This was probably Doug's reasoning to buy a powerboat. You're actually
suggesting that sailing your boat is as entertaining as sailing a fast
monohull?

You've never sailed a cat at speed, so what do you know?

Or as challenging? Puh-lease!

You've already claimed that you didn't know how to sail the cat. They're
not for everyone, you actually have to know how to sail.

But still, riding a high performance boat for 30 minutes is different from
a 50 mile spinnaker run. Someday, if your health improves, you may be
able to do something like that.

...

So keep trying to claim you have the best boat ever made, Booby.

Never said that, Jeff. I said it was the best boat here. And that's a
fact. You're not taking your PDQ any distances now. Have you used it
much this season?

I've said a number of times that the cat is a bit of overkill for how we
use it now. However, we're already planning our next long trip, it may
only be a couple of years off. And we're still arranging the schedule for
next summer, but we want 3-4 weeks in Maine so we can get Down East again.

And yes, we did use it a lot this season. We were out for 6 weeks plus a
couple of weekends. We had guests join us for more than one night on
three occasions. None had ever spent a night on a boat before. With 3
generous staterooms everyone gets a quality berth. Every night was spent
at anchor or on a mooring, most meals were prepared on board. We have no
A/C and yet, it was never horrific.

A fast fun monohull like mine would suit you better.

No, it wouldn't, not a chance. You just don't understand the type of
boating we do. We went out for two daysails last summer, one was a
"tuneup" and the other was with an old friend who is so agoraphobic she
wouldn't go out of sight of the downtown waterfront. (It actually a big
step - the first time she's been out with us in about 15 years!)

Every other sail was for a cruise that took us 50 to 150 miles away.
Although there were a number of small hops, the "traveling days" averaged
50 miles. We traveled almost every day we had planned, only adjusting for
hurricane remnants. If the wind was light, we powered, otherwise we
sailed. If the wind was strong and the seas rough, we still forged ahead.
(Now that I think of it, I can't remember a time that we went out and then
completely punted on the day.)

Much of the time we were hanging out in places like Hadley's Harbor, Red
Brook, Vineyard Haven, P'town, or Misery Island. We had our
rowing/sailing dink, plus a tandem kayak with us. We got to swim and
play, the dog swam and ran on the beach every day ... we had a blast. And
being able to bring a friend makes all the difference for our daughter!

What if we had your boat? The traveling would have taken longer. On
those several days when the ride was rough we would have had a really
nasty ride. I can drive my boat for 6 hours in any weather and still feel
refreshed, you can't do that on your boat. Maybe your boat would be more
fun for some of the sailing; it would be a lot less fun other times. A
daysailor gets to say it doesn't look like a good day. When you come out
of the Cape Cod Canal and there's no turning back, and no harbor for 20
miles, you have to be able to take what it gives.

And when you get to your destination, which boat is more comfortable? Its
not even close. You spend virtually all your time either tied up at the
marina or sailing, then you go home. We spend the great majority of our
time swinging at an anchor. Good grief! You've been touting A/C as a
replacement for ventilation! You've been bragging about an electric
stove!

I appreciate that having a baby has slowed you down some. But even the
year after ours was born we still went to the Vineyard in our 30 footer.

Mooron can make a case because he likes full keelers. And here's
another thing that sucks about your boat: It offers no workout. When we
took out the 35s5 we found we could sail it easy, or push things an get
a real workout on her. Can you do that with the PDQ?

So now you're complaining that my boat is too easy to sail fast? OK,
sure, that's part of what I like about it. I can raise the chute and be
doing over 10 knots without breaking a sweat. If I want excitement I do
it singlehanded.

I considered that a great advantage - your boat can almost keep up with
mine in winds over 12 knots, but only if you have a crew to handle the
chute. Racers are measured by what they can do with 6 people on board;
cruisers often only have 1 on deck.


Sure, set up a
Bowflex on the deck. Sorry, Jeff. We like sailing and the work and
"discomforts" associated with that. To us the PDQ was about as
interesting as a Trawler.

You just didn't sail it. I doubt you were on it at all. Did you raise
the chute? What kind was it?



And what makes you think I have no sense of humor?

Because you've yet to compliment me on my wit and skills trolling this
group. You actually have no idea who I am or even if I have a
boat...yet all of you scamper around me like frustrated seal pups! And
THAT'S funny!

Sorry bob, you're the one who's been on the hook all this time. For every
post I've made, you've done ten. And you're still stuck with a bendy toy!

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!



RB ...a better boob NY