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Capt. JG
 
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You need to be careful if you're going to do this...

http://www.sabreyachts.com/owner_resources/faq.php

Q. How do I go about changing the stove in my boat from CNG to propane?

A. Many owners inquire about making a change from CNG to propane fuel for
the galley stove. The main reason given is that propane is more widely
available and it is sometimes preferred despite CNG's safer properties. (CNG
is lighter than air and thus escapes from the yacht's interior. Propane
sinks to the boats bilges if it escapes from the system.)

Changing cooking fuels is a very extensive project in that the tanks, the
tank locker, the hose, the regulator, and the burner orifices must be
changed. This is not a do-it-yourself project. Only qualified service
technicians should perform the work.

The commonly available sizes of propane tanks will not fit in the same tank
locker designed for CNG tanks. Although Sabre fabricates fiberglass tank
lockers for our CNG systems, these are not retrofitable. They will not fit
though a cockpit locker opening which was created for the original
installation. It is also worth noting that Sabre fiberglasses these lockers
in place, the only exception being the Sabre 362.

We recommend that any Sabre owner who has a Regal CNG stove and wishes to
pursue this switch, start by contacting www.seawardproducts.com. They offer
kits for switching the burner orifices. Unfortunately, the changing of the
burner parts is only the first part of this project. The rest of the work
should be discussed with experienced service personnel.

If you're a subscriber to Practical Sailor magazine, you may recall (or wish
to look up) their June 1, 1994 edition. On the last page is their response
to a letter in which they discuss this subject.

Looking for CNG? Try www.corpbrothers.com


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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
But this leaves the question, if you remove the propane, how do you
run the stove?

It's called CNG, Jeff. Costs 200 dollars to set it up with our current
stove.

But, you just bragged about a "dual use" system, now you're claiming

its so dangerous you're removing it.

Another lie from Jeff. We're changing it.

Actually, I'd even agree that if I were
to live at the dock year round

Holy backpedal Batman!!!

think you were quite explicit when you said: "We really loved the
boat, but could not find one that hadn't been raced to death."

Yep, old sails and worse ruined cushions from wet sails dumped on them
again and again. One needed updated running rigging along with new
cushions. One of the four boats had some of the interior removed, such
as the table. But the boats were generally solid and looked fine. Raced
to death doesn't mean a bad boat...it can be cosmetics which can cost a
fortune. Go price new cushions and sails. As usual you're clueless and
jump to conclusions. BTW of the four we looked at over the last 3
months, only one remains unsold! And all sold for more than what we
paid. The one with the bad deck sold for exactly what we paid!

Right, it really hurt me when you said my boat doesn't heel. What
other faults did you find - too much ventilation?

According to you, when you want to have some sailing fun you go sail a
dinghy. We all know that the PDQ 36 is something less than fun to sail.
Folks who love to sail buy 35s5's, or even Express 30's, Jeff. Nobody
equates "sporting fun" with sailing a PDQ 36. NO ONE. Not even you.
When we go sailing with family, with friends or just the three of us we
like to be on a boat that's fun, a boat that heels and can get our
blood pumping. We don't want to be on a river raft. That's what you
like and that's fine, but don't compare it to the very different
activity of sailing a monohull. When we sailed on the PDQ 36, my wife
couldn't even see the point of it. We might as well have been on a
powerboat...a really slow one.

With the 35s5 we have a boat that's fun and can cruise on our weekend
trips or longer. Hell, I posted a link to folks cruising around the
world in one. They seem to be doing fine! Based on your criteria you
have the ONLY boat here suitable for cruising in this group BTW. The
35s5 has a proven record of blue water sailing AND it has a larger
interior than most of the other boats here. So it looks like only you
and Joe can go to sea! What a laugh.
Face it, Jeff. It's check and mate. You lost. I won't even begin to
bash the idiotic idea of comparing the 35s5 directly to dinghy sailing.
Hell, I got yelled at for even suggesting it earlier.
People who love the shape of boats rarely love a monohull, Jeff.

Good luck,

RB
35s5
NY