"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:58:15 +0000, NOYB wrote:


I believe that while Wilson was telling the Niger fairy tale story to
Kristof and Pincus, Wilson outed his own wife as early as May 2003.

LOL, the Niger fairy tale, from Wilson? Lost is all of this Plame mess,
is the fact that there were two other officials that were in Niger
checking on the purchase of yellowcake. Both agreed with Wilson's
assessment, that Niger yellowcake was secure. Funny this administration
didn't drag their names through the mud. Perhaps, it's because one of
them was a Marine Four Star. Any fairy tales about Niger, were from this
administration.

Do you have some sources, preferably documented, for these two other people
that agreed with Wilson's verbal report?

But Pincus denied under oath that he knew Plame's identity prior to
Novak's article. Of course, Pincus's testimony (which was already
suspect
because of the fact that he used Plame's husband as his source) is shot
to
**** by Woodward's testimony...which said that he discussed Plame's
identity with Pincus in mid-June.

Any way you look at it, Walter Pincus is lying. So now ask yourself
"why?"

The way I look at it, as much as you would like there to be, there is no
evidence that Wilson outed his wife, none. And because you prefer
Woodward's recollection doesn't necessarily make it so. Woodward could be
mistaken, and Pincus could be correct. Neither of us knows for sure.

There has already been an Army two-star General that has said that Wilson
told him that his wife, Wilson's wife, worked for the CIA in the WMD section
on or before May of 2003.


Woodward knew about Plame sometime before Libby spoke with Judith Miller.
Pincus knew because Woodward told him (and I believe Wilson told Pincus
too). If Woodward knew, and Pincus knew, it's safe to say that "all the
reporters in Washington" knew. And in his testimony, Libby said that
Russert told Libby that "all the reporters in Washington" knew. It
appears that Libby was telling the truth.

I know your dentist's mind isn't that logically challenged, therefore, I'm
assuming you know you are full of it. *If* all the reporters in
Washington knew, you have to ask how they all knew. Reporter'
s sources and information is their bread and butter. They keep then
close, and it's unlikely they would be spreading that kind of scoop
amongst themselves.

You don't live in the DC area do you? The pecking order is determined by how
much you know and that can't be determined until you open your mouth and let
everybody know what you know. The reporters are no different.

However, in your scenario, reporter's either gossip to each other, or you
have to place Wilson spreading the information around. There isn't any
evidence that is so. On the other hand, there is considerable evidence
that several officials in this administration were spreading Plame's
status around, a la conspiracy. We'll just have to wait and see.

Both! Reporters gossip, it determines the peckiing order. And, Wilson
blabbed to anyone that would listen that his wife worked for the CIA, again
the pecking order thing comes up again.