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Bush won the election! CM


This is probably why you can't travel to the US.

He can't?

Sheesh... I've got my EU passport so no problem..... but I don't want to
get shaken down for a retinal scan and fingerprint for your Homeland
Security Office.


Mr. Ganz seems to be under the impression you aren't allowed to travel to
the US.


I have 2 US Visas and an American Social Security Card. I have travelled
through-out the USA years ago.... down the west coat to Mexico taking in
every state along the West coast... back up from Mexico through the
central western states.... I would say that I have been to more states
than most of you.. I've been in every state up the Eastern coast and all
along your border with Canada. I've been through most of the central
states as well. The USA offers nothing I couldn't find anywhere else on
the planet.


I believe you mean *somewhere else on the planet.* I doubt if you'd find,
for example, something like Chesepeake Bay in Saudi Arabia or Tanzania.


In general... I found it to be paranoid, rude and the people generally
ignorant of anything outside their respective states ... let alone their
national borders.


Pretty much like Canadians. I find Canadians and Americans to be so similar
as to be virtually indistinguishable, those from the French provinces the
exception, as they mostly tend to be incredibly rude and arrogant. You are
right, however, that many Americans are ignorant of anything beyond their
respective state borders, and beyond their hometowns in many cases. Same
with Canadians. On a motorcycle trip through Canada some years ago, I found
it worthless to ask directions much beyond 20 miles or so from my current
location. No one had the foggiest of what was over the next hill. But I
found most Cannucks to be friendly and congenial, the same as I've found
most Americans to be. You remarked that you don't consider arrogance to be
a character flaw. Perhaps those that meet you do.



Canada, Mexico, Cuba and the Caribbean offers everything the US does....


Canada: how many Canadian automobiles (not just American cars made under
license) does your country produce? How many indigenous motorcycles? How
many provinces have tropical or subtropical climates?

Mexico and/or Cuba: won't even bother with those

Caribbean: how many freshwater rivers, bays and tidewater estuaries do you
find there? What is the per capita income throughout the Caribbean, and how
does it compare with Canada or the USA? And on and on . . .

If you mean that those countries *combined* offer everything the US does,
then you might be close. But I can have all those things without having to
show my passport or deal with incompetent local governments bent on
extorting money from me. And I can make a decent living anywhere within the
borders of the USA. buy virtually any product or service imaginable, and not
have to deal with the petty, extortionist bureaucrats that such places as
Cuba and Mexico have in droves.


so I have no need to travel there except maybe to visit some of my many
American friends.....


Would these be the rude, arrogant ones? Now that you mention it, birds of a
feather . . .


but not at the price of getting a shake-down and frisked at the front
door. Most people specify no US stops on trips to other countries now.


Hmmm. Try flying into Frankfort, Germany, or Tel Aviv, for examples, to
witness just how paranoid the authorities can be. Spread 'em and raise your
arms, Mooron. g


Globally speaking... and in very general terms.... I found that years
ago Americans were tolerated but disliked.... whereas now it seems they
are despised and avoided.


Bull****. You watch too much liberal TV and believe the half-truths and
distortions you see. My last trip to China was a real eye-opener. We were
informed beforehand that we might get a less-than-friendly reception. To
the contrary we were treated like visiting royalty. The Chinese kids in
Beijing were so interested in us that they almost wouldn't leave us alone.
And the adults all wanted to know what it was like to live in the USA. We
stopped in Germany on the way home and were likewise treated warmly and with
respect. The only minor glitch we encountered was with an overly officious
jerk in the customs office at JFK International upon our return.


I must state however that I have had pleasant experiences with the
American Tourists visiting Canada. I also had the pleasure to meet with
some very nice Americans during my travels there. It seems that politeness
and courtesy is contagious.


No ****? According to folks like you, there can't be over a dozen or more
decent Americans. You must have met them all in one sitting.


But rest assured... I'd prefer a trip to the USA than any Muslim Country
right now!


Right now, yes, because you'd be taken for an American. My last trip to
Jordan/Saudi Arabia/Egypt was between Desert Storm ('91) and the current
Iraq war. The Arabs we dealt with were friendly, courteous, congenial, and
very interested in life in America. I saw a professor, an Arab with one of
the universities in Germany--don't recall which at the moment--talking on
CNN not long ago. He said that nearly every country on the planet has
traditionally had people who look up to Americans (oh, I suppose that might
include you guys, too) and wish to learn more about them, emulate them in
some ways (dress, music, culture). Recently, however, with the
preponderance of anti-US sentiment throughout the world media, many of those
same people, who've envied Americans, now have an excuse to dislike them.
He likened it to Michael Jackson--many people were jealous of his wealth,
fame, talent. But when he became tarnished, they jumped on the bandwagon of
those who hated him. Jealousy is always a great motivator.

Max


This rant is soooo American. You're right, we all love you.