"DSK" wrote in message
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wrote:
You talk of right wing whackos as if the left has
none.
Not at all
I am embarrassed by the right wing wackos and would certainly prefer
if they would disappear quietly. The difference though, is that the
left is
defined by the wackos.
Again, not at all.
This is a method of discrediting anything you disagree with as being
propagated
by "whackos" before even starting. And you want to claim a halo for being
of so
reasonable and logical..... NOT
I don't discredit it because I disagree with it, I discredit it because more
and more, the left is defined by special interest groups and extremists.
Take a look at the 2004 candidates - all but Lieberman are trying to
"out-left" each other, thinking that this is the only way to stand apart
from the crowd, and hoping to get the vote. In my opinion, any program that
takes my money and rewards someone for doing nothing, or misuses it, is
repulsive. Both parties are guilty of misuse of funds, but the majority
comes from social programs and entitlement programs designed by the Dems.
Look at CA, they extend these programs to people who are breaking the law
(illegal immigrants) while denying them to to citizens. If they had any
brains at all, they would allow the illegals to work there (doing the jobs
we're too proud to do anyway) and tax the income...maybe whittle down a
little of that $38 billion debt. Don't even get me started on the 9th
Circus Court...how about San Fransisco paying for sex change operations for
city workers...just a few examples of the policies coming from the left.
Maybe Michael Moore should run in '04, he'd beat 'em all...
I think it boils down to this...call someone a leftist, and they deny it and
act insulted...call be a right wing conservative and I proudly, openly
acknowledge it. I will openly discuss my goals and motives, while the left
claims impartiality and swears they are not biased.
If you were capable of having a conversation on the
basis of fact, not namecalling, I would gladly engage you.
I guess you have not followed this NG very long. I'd much prefer to talk
boats,
and the few times I get into political discussions it's either serious (as
in
the economics thread above) or for humor, as when clubbing NOBBY and some
of the
other right-wing whackos here (who all try to position themselves as
"conservatives"). The only one with a lick of sense seems to be JohnH, and
he
gets dragged over the edge all too often.
I've been following the NG since 1997, after purchasing my Grand Banks 46
Let's start with the left's idea that it's the government's
responsibility
to find you a job...just yesterday one of the dwarves spole to the
AFL-CIO
and question after question was "What are you going to do to find me
this or
get me that?" Get up off your ass and do it yourself!
That would appear to be more than just "the left." Anybody who is worried
about
his financial future is not automatically a leftist, so sorry.
No, but anyone who is a member of a union automatically IS a leftist.
Unions may have had a place in society at one time, but they are not
counterproductive. All they do is breed nepotism and interfere with free
competition. How is it that someone who moves boxes around on a dock can
make as much as I make with two degrees and state licensure as a Forensic
Engineer? Granted, cost of living has some factor, but explain to me how
the two jobs are of equal worth. Unskilled labor vs. technical and legal
analysis.
Where I live, you can't do random drug testing at the fire dept. because the
union won't allow it. Some stoned jackass is going to kill somebody one of
these days as a direct result of union policy. Why do unions cry every time
someone wants to put a job out for competitive bid? Because they can't
compete. They are a burden to society, and anyone who is in a union is
supporting the ideals, making them leftist by association.
As for getting up and doing yourself, that's an admirable concept IMHO.
It used to be the American way, before everyone decided that someone else is
to blame for all their problems
...I'm sure you'll dismiss me as an ignorant right
wing wacko...so be it...
Actually, you seem to be somewhat well informed, but badly biased and
quiveringly eager to dismiss anything you disagree with as whacko-ism. So
yes, I
dismiss you. Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.
DSK