I guess if you repeat it long enough, you come to believe it yourself.


Vito wrote:
I cited the applicable part of the Geneva Convention. What more do you
want?


Are you really a moron, or just playing one on TV?

All you have done is cite the code applying to POWs and say (repeatedly
& repeatedly & repeatedly & repeatedly & repeatedly) that these guys are
NOT POWs so these rules don't apply. Which I agree with.

It does not at all prove that any country is allowed to just grab people
at random and hold them prisoner indefinitely, with no due process.



If the rest of the world jumped on a bridge, would you do that too?


No - that's why I don't go the Muslim countries or break any laws outside
the US.

That's what *you* think.

Do you know how many laws there are? I bet you're breaking a large
number of them right now.


... But if I left a family without support to go fight for the Taliban
I'd expect to end up in Gitmo ... or a nuthouse.

Maybe so. And if you were grabbed off the street & tossed in jail with
no chance to prove you *weren't* fighing for the Taliban, you'd be
pretty PO'd.




"Unlucky schmuck" is a bit of a stretch yourself. We are only holding a
tiny percent of captives at Gitmo - those suspicious enough and valuable
enough to be worth the bother. The average Taliban grunt doesn't go there
much less unlucky schmucks. It's too expensive.

Ya think?

That's why they've already let go (after a year or so in prison) a 70+
year old man who was a farmer. They also released a British man to the
custody of England, there was zero evidence against him so they promptly
let him go.

Nice work, huh?




I have not seen any justification under any law for holding any class of
prisoner indefinitely with no due process at all, ever.


Article 5: Where, in the territory of a Party to the conflict, the latter is
satisfied
that an individual protected person is definitely suspected of or engaged in
activities hostile to the security of the State,.....

The local "magistrate" (OK, tribal leader) decided each one was "definately
suspected" and then a US Intel Officer agreed before any were sent to Gitmo.
That's how they got there. That is "due process" under both Afghan and
international law.

Horse ****.

Nothing of the kind has been claimed by anybody except you.

But wait... maybe you're a secret assistant to Rumsfeld, and have inside
info? Maybe that's what the voices told you?

DSK