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Jeff Rigby wrote:
"There was a vacumn here as 80% of the origional indians in the eastern and
south easteren continental US were killed by dieases brought in by spanish
explorers. When the english and dutch sought to colonize this country there
were many unclaimed lands."


Really? How come there is no mention of that in any land title documents?

Usually land grants were given by the king, who owned the land by right
of conquest or divine providence, depending... or the large land
grantees also posted ownership claims based on grants & purchases from
Indian tribes.

If you know of any land titles originated by a European settler arriving
in North America, and stating "There was nobody here, so it's my land
now," I'd be interested to see it.

There is certainly no such in North Carolina, because the royal land
grants covering the area are still extant. AFAIK that's also true of all
the original colonies and the Louisiana Purchase.

No mention of Eskimos in my post


No, I mentioned the Eskimos because in your original statement, they
could well have been included. That's what happens when you make vague
and unsupportable claims, and at at the same time try to insert dramatic
statistics.

If you make clear and accurate statements, then people find it much more
difficult to make you look stupid and prove you wrong.

... nor was there mention of the northeast
where Dutch, English and French were very brutal in claiming, defending and
exploiting their claims. We were talking about Americans killing off the
indians and for the most part I identify with the south and have a greater
grasp of our history than the northeast and Canada.


Well, good for you. I think you still have a little ways to go, and
maybe you can also start on some world history too.


... The settlers in the
northeast have been the most brutal unethical humans on this earth for
hundreds of years. That culture I won't defend. The yankee traders of the
1800's gave us the reputation that we are still living down


No argument from me on that.



I suggest you look up some more history, like the Tuscarora War or King
Phillip's War... wars in which the Indians drove white settlers out of
large areas of their lands... temporarily, to be sure... doesn't really
fit your picture, does it? I wonder why?



Again, I was talking, or defending Americans not europeans.


???

You mean the Indians? It's a bit late to defend them, although they may
end up buying the country back with casino proceeds.


Now, if you had said that the Indians suffered massive depopulation,
mostly from deisease, starting when the Spanish explorers arrived....
*that* would be truthful. Instead you have to make up some exaggerated
claim and start hurling insults.



That's what I did say and you for some reason twisted it.


No, I would never do such a thing!

... I didn't START
hurling insults just responded to your comment that I should reread the 5th
grade history books which contained many of the statements I made but which
you seemed to have forgotten.


Is that why none of the web sites you cited backed up your claims?

Misquoting, distorting and hurling insults are not what I call adult
behavior.


I have never once misquoted or distorted anything you posted. And you
OTOH have attributed to me several statements I never made and would not
make.

As for hurling insults, you did indeed start. And continue.

DSK