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| Capt. NealŪ wrote:
| "Jeff" wrote in message news

| | Bob Crantz wrote:
| | "Lady Pilot" wrote in message
| | news:mxeaf.314$Kv.312@dukeread05...
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| | Proverbs 31:1-7 ***
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| | 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads
| | to]
| | wiping out kings.
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| | Amen!
| | Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the
| | son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
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| | Before acting on the last of the proverbs, read carefully the first. "nor
| | your ways to wiping out kings" in no way asserts Neal is a king.
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| | Actually the meaning of the phrase is unclear in the original and the
| | translations are just speculations. Another version is "Do not give
| | your strength to woman, your vigor to those who destroy kings."
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| | This is one of those curious parts of the Old Testament that was
| | probably not actually originally Hebrew.
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| Much of the Old Testament has been superceded by the New Testament.
| In the sermon on the mount Jesus clarified many of the old commandments
| and expanded upon them. "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or
| the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." --Matthew 5:17
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| Certainly the Christian view is that the New Testament supersedes the
| Jewish Bible, but Jesus was speaking as a Jew in the Sermon on the
| Mount. He clearly said in the following verse: "For truly I tell you,
| until Heaven and Earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a
| letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished."
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| By "law" he was referring to the Jewish ways. (Although, strictly
| speaking, the Book of Proverbs is part of "The Writings" and not "The
| Law.")
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| This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive
| different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew,
| speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the
| Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could
| re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology.
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| I think Jesus paraphrased the above statement about not giving your
| strength to women and your vigor to destroying kings when He said:
| "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on Earth, where moth and rust
| destroy and where thieves break in and steal" --Matthew 6:19
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| No, it is pretty clear Jesus was talking about material possessions,
| while Proverb 31 is the admonishment of a mother to a prince that
| indulging in women and booze is not appropriate for a king.
I'm curious which version of the Bible you are quoting from.
CN