"Len" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:56:35 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:

There are always winners and losers in everything you do. The fact that
you
abhor competition and desire to seek consensus is very telling.
What makes you think (wrongly) I abhor competition?
Or is that synonymous with fighting to you, hm... very telling
indeed...
Seeking consensus is not a bad thing. You should take a modern course
in negociation or google for "prisoners dilemma". It resembles
co-existing a bit better tham your boxing-ring. It may enlighten you
that when both parties communicate intelligently the total outcome can
improve a lot.

I'll try it again in even simpler terms....
In thinking in simple winning/losing you always settle for a
suboptimal result. Tell me, who is winning, the intelligent negotiator
who finds a mutual interest and achieves a combined succes (that would
be me in this little comparison) or the boxer who knocks everything
down he doesn't directly understand (and that would be you)?

Or is this too much a braincracker for you...?

An American, you are not!

??? Huh ?
Come again ?

Bert is easier to understand if you get really drunk first. Get down to his
level.