"Len" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:41:12 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:
But I can also think for myself. And I can use various sources with
various Bias's. And I am careful about interest that are persued
within the specific bias presented. That what every citizen should do
in my view.

I live in the US and we have freedom of the press and we get our news from
all over the world. Do you live in a country that censors your news?
No, did I imply that? where?

Well thank you. Now I don't have to think anymore. I just have to
repeat, Reagan was the driving force, Reagan was the driving force.
You are welcome.
Don't you even understand irony when it's that thick?

What would the amount of casualties be when Bush hadn't started war on
false pretences? Or am I using biased information?

The children of Iraq would still be starving due to Saddam taking all of
the
Oil for Food money and building more palaces.
Do you mean the children that we're starving befor or after the years
America supported Saddam ?

What is it with this obsession with winners and losers....
There are always winners and losers in everything you do. The fact that
you
abhor competition and desire to seek consensus is very telling.
What makes you think (wrongly) I abhor competition?
Or is that synonymous with fighting to you, hm... very telling
indeed...
Seeking consensus is not a bad thing. You should take a modern course
in negociation or google for "prisoners dilemma". It resembles
co-existing a bit better tham your boxing-ring. It may enlighten you
that when both parties communicate intelligently the total outcome can
improve a lot.

I'll try it again in even simpler terms....
In thinking in simple winning/losing you always settle for a
suboptimal result. Tell me, who is winning, the intelligent negotiator
who finds a mutual interest and achieves a combined succes (that would
be me in this little comparison) or the boxer who knocks everything
down he doesn't directly understand (and that would be you)?

Or is this too much a braincracker for you...?

An American, you are not!