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Harry Krause
 
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Default OT on IRAQ

Jim wrote:
Google "Iraq +rules of engagement"

Couple of extracts

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Since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in April, the military has
announced several inquiries into alleged transgressions by its forces in
the war-ravaged country. Few verdicts have been reported and almost all
of those have exonerated the soldiers.

“No one feels safe in Iraq now and not a day goes by without more
civilians being killed or injured by US soldiers or by armed groups
amidst total impunity,” human rights group Amnesty International told
AFP on Friday.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq – The U.S. military said Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez,
responding to a question Thursday about the Sept. 12 friendly fire
deaths of eight Iraqi policemen and a Jordanian guard in Fallujah, gave
a response about an earlier killing of two Iraqi policemen by American
forces in the same city.

Sanchez, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, said the military
investigation showed no misconduct in the incident.

"The initial findings are that the soldiers acted within the construct
of the military's rules of engagement," he told reporters.

The Associated Press reported that Sanchez was talking about a Sept. 12
shooting involving the 82nd Airborne Division.
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IT is even debateable that the showing og Sadam in captivity, and
particularly his dead sons violated the Geneva convention. For an
interesting discussion see
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/te...ners_3-23.html



John H wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:53:57 -0500, Jim wrote:



John H wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:26:51 -0500, Jim wrote:



In 1946, the Nuremberg Tribunal concluded: "To initiate a war of
aggression is not only an international crime; it is the supreme
international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it
contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

Nuremberg also taught us that "just following orders" is not an excuse
for what the winning side declares to be war crimes. So while the
Germans couldn't get off the hook, neither can the Iraqis, who have been
told from the beginning of the invasion that if they DID follow their
leaders' orders, they would be tried for war crimes. And yet, the
sensitive American soldier who is told to drop bombs on undefended Iraqi
villages -- well, he must do what he is told to do and there's no wiggle
room. He is ruled by people with divine rights; the power that comes

from holding one hand on a bible and keeping the other outstretched to


the oil oligarchy.

What is the wing opening in the sky? What is darkening the clouds? When
does it descend in all its ominous power?
"The best lack all convictions, while the worst Are full of passionate
intensity." (Yeats)


Can you provide an instance where an American soldier was told that he
was to drop bombs on an undefended village and then proceeded to do
so?

Tokyo and Dresden to name 2 cities that were firebombed in WW2. NEither
had military importance, and Thousands of civilians were killed. The
bombing of Hanoi was indiscriminate


I thought not. Now, what is the rest of your post worth?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


The thread was about Iraq. You must have missed that.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



A high number of rapes of American female soldiers by American male
soldiers has been reported...classy, eh?