"Courtney" wrote in message
ink.net...
What I've been noticing is that Kman and Mike pretty much agree on most of
what is being argued about with the exception that Mike believe's some
would
like professional instruction and Kman doesn't think they need it.

Regardless people are going to do whatever it is they want to do despite
this argument. Some want to learn strokes correctly right off the bat and
others prefer to take their time learning on their own. Some are
frustrated
and turn to a professional while others turn to a friend or book while
some
don't turn to anyone at all. That's why this world is so wonderful,
everyone is different and expects different things from themselves and
others. Whatever works best for them is the way they should go. As for
this argument, you both make good points but now there's just alot of
repeating going on and hard feelings being had. Let's put this on to
rest.

If you've actually been following, my argument is simply that people CAN
learn without professional instruction. I have no issue whatsoever with
someone who wants to hire an instructor.

I learned from a friend that happened to be on the US team, lucky me.
After
that I learned from watching. I never had "professional" instruction.
However I eventually became an instructor and have been for 10 years now.
I'm happy to give out tips to anyone who simply asks on the river and I'm
also happy if they want me to teach them professionally. As a
professional
I'm glad that I am able to offer that service for those who want it and as
an individual I'm happy to help out those that were like me when I
started.
Whatever it takes for one to get on the river and be happy paddling is
what
it's all about.

Courtney

Works for me Courtney.

"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article , BCITORGB
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wrote on 10/16/05 8:12 PM:

Roger says:
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In a sense, the theory of locus of control would reinforce what you
said
here. In fact, if you fully explained your theories of the
professionalisation of everything, you'd provide an operational
definition
of the theory.
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Quite right, Roger.

At the risk of speaking for KMAN (again?); what I hear hear him saying
is more a case of "I don't buy this 'external locus of control' pocus"
because, as you so correctly point out, KMAN is totally into the
internal locus of control thing.

Cheers

Hm. Sort of. It's just that when it comes to learning, every human being
by
virtue of being a human being has an internal locus of control. The fact
that some people come to believe they do not have this - that they must
hire
a professional so that they can learn something new - comes as a result
of
distorted thinking. As to what causes that distorted thinking, well,
that
would be an interesting and very long discussion that might well include
a
dialogue about the professionalization of recreation :-)