On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:48:00 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:57 -0400, PocoLoco
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:37:50 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:12:18 -0400, thunder
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:26:53 +0000, Eisboch wrote:


In any event, Bush will be done in by the expiration of his term. Time to
start thinking about a successor, from both sides or more.

I heard an interesting statistic this afternoon. Paul Harvey, I think.
Last year the US graduated 70,000 new engineers. Japan graduated 350,000
and China graduated 650,000. Related, more money was spent in the US on
liability lawsuits than on new technical research and development. Seems
this country has taken it's eye off the ball, and I personally believe it
has a lot more to do with loosing traditional values than it does due to
the policies of any particular politician.

I'm always leery of that "traditional values" thing. I'm never sure what
values they mean. ;-) But you are right, we have lost something. Someone
promised us a free lunch, and we believed them. Those lawsuits are a
prime example. People get injured, and they think they have won the
lottery. We want it all, and we want it now, like spoiled children.

TANSTAAFL.

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

Where we've lost is in basic and middle education. We're much more
interested in diversity and socialization than in rote learning of
math and science skills.

Just yesterday, in a school system in which I am intimately aware of,
they eliminated a science period for the 7th graders so they could
have a "social" event - namely a make believe 20th reunion so the kids
could start thinking of where they are and where they are going.

At eleven years old, it's a little over the top.

Personally, I think the only thing they knew was (1) they got out of
science and (2) there was ice cream and cake.

As an observation, I have noticed that when I emergency substitute in
high school advanced math classes, they are getting smaller and
smaller because its' an elective and nobody believes it's important.

Don't know what that proves - something.

Amen. And, what percent of the students are Asian?

Um....we have to import students for diversity sessions.

We have one Turkish student and that's it.

Here almost half the students in the Calculus classes are Asian, mostly Korean.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan