Gene ,,, duh,,,,

Here we go again,, another union dummie out of the closet. Gene, don't try
to blame the world or the corporations for the present job migration or
economic problems, the main factor is you and your dummy union members. Come
on, you think that this 500 billion trade deficit is something that will go
away? Duh,,,,
Come on, give the head a shake.




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:19:05 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:29:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to
the
corporations are reduced by 90%?


That isn't the right question, that is a defeatist's question. The
proper question is, why have our elected officials stood there like
goggle-eyed tourists and watched it happen? .... and continue to do
so.


For the same reason you avoided answering my question...there's no easy,
short-term fix.


And at what point did I suggest that it was? I didn't answer your
question, as asked, because it forces the issue to *be* simplistic.
This isn't *just* about disparity in personal income or collective
bargaining.... as your sock puppet Tuuk implies... and where the
notion emerged.


If you conceive the world as one economy (which is really what this is
all about), with the poorest 3 countries with a GDP of less than $560
and the richest three countries with a GDP of over $33,000...


This is obviously not a level playing field and unless you'd like to
assume a lifestyle much closer to the $560 than the $33,000, you'd
better accept some form of "field leveling" technology, taxes,
tariffs, whatever

Let's look at your solutions:
1) "field leveling" technology--
how would that help? Then you'd have robots doing the labor instead of
$2/day Chinamen


You do, now, and in this country and abroad.

2) taxes--
on who? Corporations? Then they'd just cut even deeper into the
employee
costs


Taxing foreign corporations is fine. Actually, to tax a corporation
is merely to state that the government has selected that company as a
collector of XYZ tax. You really can't tax a corporation, but if I
could somehow "level the field" by increasing the "employee costs in
the foreign country.....

3) tariffs--

don't work. The Hawley-Smoot Tariff just managed to deepen and prolong
the
Great Depression. The recent steel tariff that Bush tried just ended up
increasing costs to the manufacturers and end-users that depended upon it


Nobody in their right mind would have thought the tariff on steel
would work. But...

Could we just try *something* workable? You don't see that America is
being harmed by trade practices that allow (for example) Harbor
Freight to sell a roughly 35# anvil for $35.00???? Disregard, if you
wish, the labor cost, the material cost, import fees (if any) and see
if you can ship that thing BACK to ROC for the $35.00 sale price. Oh,
yeah, and I suspect that Harbor Freight paid *less* than $35.00
(probably around $17-$18) for the item.... ship it back for that.




to bring the 59:1 discrepancy more in line with
something workable.

The best thing we can do is require that the governments who want to do
business with us impose similar regulations (Fair Labor Standards,
environmental controls, etc) on their manufacturing sector as we impose
on
ours.


Sounds like "field leveling" to me.


Anybody, no matter how incompetent, can run a business with these
sorts of discrepancies.... and this is borne out in the all time high
(Feb '04) trade deficit figures. With high tech jobs and industries,
now headed overseas in droves... for the same reasons..... things
aren't going to get any better just standing there watching it happen.




I agree with your assessment, above, and is what I was referring to as
"field leveling," but I'm not opposed to reasonable tariffs. I don't
think that any correlation between today and the Great Depression is
valid, nor do I think simple tariffs, on steel for example, will work.
If steel producing countries can't sell to US at a profit, then they
will sell to other countries.

Gosh, though. How does that work? We charge a tariff on steel.... so
they sell to ROC. ROC turns the steel into anvils and sells them back
to us for less than we can even ship them.... this making sense to
you??


Oh and on another matter... since I've held you in suspense long
enough, I'll put it in dentisty terms, so that you will grasp the
concept. On the matter of removing the cam and checking the valve
clearance for $1000:

This is analogous to a patient coming to you for you to measure the
distance between two of their teeth. So.... you remove one of the
teeth, measure the distance between them and then charge $1000 for
services rendered.

Now, see why you shouldn't post stuff you read at other places that
you don't really understand?

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