"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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None of those items are in the constitution!
The 2nd amendment is the only one that is even close, and it does not
specify or limit type of arms.


Huh? That's my precise point. If you believe that the constitution must
be interpreted on a literal word-for-word basis, then states can have
slavery if they wish (because the constitution does not expressly
prohibit it), states can prevent women and blacks from voting (because
the constitution does not expressly prohibit it), and the government has
no right to regulate drug sales (because the constitution does not
expressly provide for it). If the intent of the framers is so
important, the surely the "arms" mentioned in the 2nd amendment does not
include repeating pistols and automatic rifles because the framers did
not know of such things and could not possibly have intended them to be
included in the definition of "arms."

Peter Aitken


There is an amendment prohibiting slavery in the US.

You are corerct - my mistake.

Drug sales are interstate commerce. Expressly allowed to be controlled
by the Fed's.

Interpretation! Where are drugs mentioned in the constitution? Or why
can't drug companies sell horse pee within a state?

The Fed's do overstep their authority at times. Is why we have courts
that can rule on such cases. The state of Texas should have sued the
Fed's over Waco. Was clearly a case of Fed's overstepping their
authority. Actually people should have been tried for murder and gone to
jail for other crimes in that case.

Oh please. A law enforcement officer knocks on a door to serve a legal
warrant and is shot. Feeble-minded religious nutcases armed wth machine
guns

A fully armed contingent of ATF agents attack the compound on trumped up
charges. Machines guns are not against the law in some states. You have to
have a Federal Destructive weapons Permit. $200 / year. Koresh oftern had
lunch with the sheriff of Waco. Go present the warrant then. Then they
come up with child molestation to justify the raid. Federal crime?

set their own compound on fire. This has been investigated to death and
only the most fervid conspiracy theory nitwits still whine about it.

And proof they set the compound on fire. Lots of tear gas canisters flying,
all can start a fire, a tank knocking down wall. That can start a fire
also.


Calling out the active duty military, should have had everyone who
authorized it unemployed.

What? That makes no sense at all. Lay off the gin, will ya g?

The only allowable legal reasons to engage the active military in a raid
with in the USA is Insurrection and Drugs. The drug charge was used, way
after the situation was out of control. No proof of illegal drug trade ever
came up. I guess you think the Army can be used anytime the Fed's want? I
guess you think it is OK to commandeer your house and bivouac troops
therein.


If we want to change the constitution, there are procedures. Been used
to pass 16 admendments in addition to the Original 10 Bill of Rights.

Yes. And your point is....?


My point is that it is up to the states and people to ammend the
constitution via the rules that allow it. Not 5 judges in black robes. My
point is also you are very ignorant of the Constitution.

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Peter Aitken