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By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago

A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in
public schools unconstitutional Wednesday in a case brought by the
same atheist whose previous battle against the words "under God" was
rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds.

U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton


A liberal California judge. I really wish that the state of
California
would either secede from the union...or crumble into the sea during
the
next earthquake. They are completely out of touch with the rest of
America.



But not out of touch with the constitution which is quite clear on
this
matter. It beyond me why religious folks - some of them anyway - are
so
insecure in their beliefs that they have to have help from the
government. The gov't should be completely neutral when it comes to
religion. Of course some nitwits thnk that "freedon of religion" mean
you can choose Baptist, Methodist, or Presbeterian.

We're a nation founded in Judeo-Christian values, and most of our laws
are derived from such. There is no portion of the Constitution that
uses
the phrase "Freedom of religion". The amendment says "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

So how does one jump to the conclusion that the Pledge of Allegiance is
a
case of Congress making a law respecting an establishment of religion?


It's quite simple. Governments put young children in a position where
they
are strongly coerced to pledge, on a daily basis, that a god exists.
This
is one religious opinion but it is not held by billions of people who
believe that there is more than one god, that there is no god, or that
the
notion of a god is meaningless. By doing so the gov't is promoting one
set
of religious beliefs over others. This is what the constitution meant to
prohibit. In this case the gov't, thru the pledge, is encouraging the
religion of monotheism.

I will ask you to answer this question: why are so many people, mostly
Xtians, so anxious to push their beliefs down other people's throats?
Why
can't they go about their religion in whatever way they choose without
requiring the gov't to get involved?

Peter Aitken


Those billions who believe in a god, or numerous gods can salute their
god.
the phase, does not say Jesus, or Budda, or Shiva, or any one god. Get
over
it. The framers of the constitution believed in a God, actually I think
several different versions. They put the statement about Congress not
making a law respecting an establishment of religion to prevent a Church
of
England scenario. No where in the the constitution does is say
"separation
of Church and State". God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.

There were also offical STATE religions until the middle 1800's