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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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My comment stands. Your Little Business group is full of glowing
references to Saint Dubya the Dumb. Naturally, it would have an

opposite
opinion of the Democratic front-runner.

No, not naturally. You're making stupid-ass assumptions

again...without
checking the facts. NFIB asks its 600,000 members to vote on what

issues
are most important to small businesses. It then takes the results of

those
surveys and lobbies Congress to pass legislation that would help

small
business. Each member of Congress then votes on the issues...and

NFIB
keeps
track of who votes for what.

There are plenty of Democrats with positive (50% or better)
ratings...meaning they agree with NFIB.

Dianne Feinstein scored a 50%
Zell Miller score a 75%
John Breaux scored a 63%
Mary Landrieu scored a 75%
Max Baucus scored a 75%
Ben Nelson scored a 63%
Tim Johnson scored a 50%
James Jeffords (I) scored a 63% (scored an 83% in the 106th Congress

before
he left the Republican party)

NFIB's "glowing references" are only given when a government official
acts/votes in a way that supports small business...and that simply

doesn't
describe the vast majority of democrats.


It doesn't mean "they" agreed with your group. It means your group
agreed with their positions.


No, actually you're wrong. Lobbying groups have a pretty strong effect

on
what gets passed in Congress. Fortune rated NFIB the nation's most

powerful
business lobbying group...and the third most powerful lobbying group
overall...second only to the NRA, and AARP, respectively.

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/power25

The Top 15:
1) NRA
2) AARP
3) NFIB
4) American Israel Public Affairs Committee
5) Assoc. of Trial Lawyers of America
6) AFL-CIO
7) Chamber of Commerce of the USA
8) National Beer Wholesalers Association
9) Nat'l Assn. of Realtors
10)National Assn. of Manufacturers
11)National Assn. of Home Builders of the US
12)American Medical Association
13)American Hospital Association (formerly ranked 31st)
14)NEA
15)American Farm Bureau Federation


I've seen Fortune's lists, and I've seen others. I've never even
encountered anyone else who has mentioned your group of Small
Businessmen, probably because your interests and mine don't cover much
of the same ground, legislatively.


Sure they do. You own a business with employees, right? Then the NFIB has
lobbied for a lot of the favorable legislation you've received.

The NRA, for example, doesn't factor
into much of what interests me on the Hill.


Me neither...but I know they're a pretty powerful group.

The Pharmaceutical Research
and Manufacturers Association does.


Of course.

The AARP certainly whored itself
recently for the drug manufacturers.


I don't agree here. Half a loaf is better than no loaf. Now that the
government is paying the bill, there'll be additional legislation to attempt
to fix what's broken. The current prescription drug bill is just a start.


Ahh...the beer wholesalers. Now thete's a group worth knowing.


Pretty large part of our economy, unfortunately.