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Brian Whatcott  wrote: 
 
 Hehe...why don't you tell us what you really think, anonymous poster? 
 
 If it takes 200 sq ft of screen under a gel coat to make a good RF 
 ground, then folks who attempt a similar feat through a hull would 
 need about 0.5 / 0.05 X 200 sq ft of material - That's 2000 sq ft of 
 foil or metal mesh  (for a 0.05 in gelcoat, and a mere 0.5 inch hull 
 thickness) 
 
    Now THAT would be quite a trick -  a square about 100 ft by 20 ft. 
 Better not tell the folks who use an antenna coupled through a 1/4 
 inch glass shield - a coupler that can measure 1.5 inch square. 
 Admitted, this is often for FM radio (say 90 MHz) as opposed to 
  3MHz (?) on hf. Using these numbers for comparison, 
 90/3 X 0.5/0.25 X 2.25 sq in = 135 sq in of ground plane, hmmmm that's 
 1 sq foot in round numbers.      Now that *does* look small to me. 
 
 I expect the truth lies somewhere between 1 sq ft and 2000 sq ft. 
 through a half inch hull section.    There! How mealy-mouthed is THAT! 
 :-) 
 
 OK, let's get serious: how about locating a bronze through hull, 
 and connecting a copper foil externally in contact with it. 
 a square foot THERE, connected internally with good Litz wire might 
 make a serviceable ground.... 
 
 Brian Whatcott     Altus 
 p.s   A hint for you:  talking about  "compitant radiomen" makes 
 prospective customers nervous!    :-) 
 
Nice thought Brian....  However what you seem to forget is that 
capacative couping at RF Frequencies, is determined by three things. 
1.  Area of the Inside the hull Plate. 
2.  Distance between the two Plates. 
3.  Conductivity of the Sea Water Plate. 
 
A 200 Sq Ft Screen in the cabin overhead isn't near (Orders of magnitude) 
big enough to be an RF Ground for a MF/HF Antenna System, by itself. 
Being located far (relative in capactive terms) from the other plate 
(Salt water) means that the Rf couping into the water is what, can you 
guess?  Less than a few Picofarads.  Now calculate the RF Impedance  for 
such a system at ANY, and All MF/HF Marine Frequencies that you like to 
use, if you have enough computer power in your supercomputer.  then come 
back and explain it all to the rest of the world. 
 
 
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