"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Mr Wizzard wrote:
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Netsock wrote:
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.
Is worthless on a boat motor.
Why would that be?
Because water is always level, and the same thickness. There is no
long-term
varying load on a boat motor. Boats cant go "uphill"...or even
"downhill".

Only an inland boater with no experience on big open water would make
such an idiotic claim.

Hold up mate - I'm not sure calling his statement an
"idiotic claim" is warranted (or correct for that matter)
The idea that he is communicating is that water is
the same thickness, prop is always the same pitch,
and the boat is basically always pretty much level
(static friction, weight, etc) so therefore the torque
load on the motor is pretty much static, and always
the same (assuming that you don't break out into
cavitation often). i.e. in "gear-speak", there is
no "coast" - the drive train is always in "drive".
Further, (his downhill statement), the drivetrain never
has to race up, or "catch up" with an already moving
rotational load.


Water is always level....

Hohohohohohehehehehehahahaha.

So what are you saying here? Swells, chop,
yeah, suspose the boat can bob up/down for
a bit, and a few degrees here, and there, but
that doesn't make it non-level (addressing
basic static resistance). Bobing up/down in
a huge wake, swell, etc., even for short burts
doesn't really even change static resistance
(levelness) in my mind, because at thst point
all you are really doing is rolling fore/aft around
the CG point (center of gravity) of the vessel, no ?

Try running a few ocean inlets, say, St. Augustine Inlet, Matanzas
Inlet, St. Mary's Inlet, Mayport Inlet, and report back on how level
the water is.

Some days there are four to five foot breaking rollers coming in these
inlets, and several of them are quite long. The water in them is not
level.

Good Gawd, 4-5 foot rollers ? So how fast (typically) would
one be going to "work" thru rollers like that?




Out on the ocean, four to five foot waves are common and the typical
pleasure boat may be riding up those waves and then down those waves.
You'll lose speed going "uphill" in the water and if you're not careful
going "downhill," you'll not only pick up speed, you might broach. Your
engine will lose RPM and then gain it back in a hurry because on the
other side of the peak as you are headed to the trough, your boat, for
all intents and purposes, may approach instances where there is nothing
for the engine to push.

I see. Interesting. Man, and here I tought navigating around
Mr/Mrs Doe pulling little Johnny around on a inner tube on
the local lake was tough going.



As for water having the same thickness, well, if you're out in an ocean
storm and the waves are breaking, you'll oft find yourself with your
prop in "foamy" water. The "water" there is not quite as thick as you
might think! (Yes, I know what you are saying."

Never knew this either. Thanks for the info.


On the small lakes where Netscum is able to run his daddy's alleged jet
boat, I am sure the water is relatively flat. Has to be for the kinds of
speeds he is claiming.

So here's a question for ya. I got this new Bayliner 175 Capi, right?
Been on the local lakes here in the NW, some of which are huge.
So just how durable is a boat like this in the big waves? Secifically,
when you "land". The reason I ask is, on a few ocassions, I didn't
calculate the wave, and speed correctly, and hit really hard. And on
one recent occasion this last weekend, I came down *SO* hard
that I heard my front teeth hit my lower teeth, and scared the ****
out of me so much that I actually shut the boat down, and had to
stop and get my witts back. So I'm wondering what possible
damage I could have done to the boat? I was going "maybe" 20-ish.
I'm wondering if something like this could knock the motor/outdrive
out of alignment, or worse yet, crack/break something. What of the
battery? - the lead plates can't be overly durable, can they ?
Man, I just want to forget that moment, because I *never* knew
a boat on water could land, and slam "that" hard on water.