the bouncing is called Porpoising, the front of the boat bounces rythmicly
as you go forward like a porpoise. When it does that your prop is
venilating, just trim back until it just stops.
The rough ride is normal for a boat of this size, no matter what the
material to make it is. come on its only 17ft., in the chop its going to
ride like crap. So far the best thing I have found was to trim in a little
to try to smooth out the ride. That and also put the cooler inbetween the
front seats. (moving weight to the front of the boat will smooth out the
ride a little)
The engine noise: mmmmmmm Im thinking of some foam insulation. We need
something that will stick to the fibreglass engine cover cuz I aint gonna
drill holes to run screws in to hold it. Its gotta be thin because there is
no room between the engine and cover. Its gotta be heat proof and gasoline
proof. Or we could just turn up the stereo. ( did you have a stereo
installed or are you going to do it yourself) I did mine myself, VERY NERVE
WRACKING.
I would really appreciate the compression check, then Ill run one as well
and we can compare data (besides I would like to look at the plugs anyway)
There is no screen for the water intake. it doesnt screw up the impeller.
speaking of impellers and drive line, have you beached yours yet, if so
would you look at your prop, at the base of the prop where it fits into the
lower unit, is the paint on the prop chewed up. Mine is, it think its from
sand getting in there because the lower unit got buried and I started it up.
Flywheel, I thought we had a regular flywheel in/on ours.
could you send a link about this engine. anything would be appreciated.
With it being july 4 I was expecting it to be busy on the river, and boy was
I right, It was insane. everybody who owned a boat or knew someone who had a
boat was out. I think Ill just do like I used to do. STAY THE HELL OUT OF
THERE untill next weekend when things calm down.
Do you boat on a river or lake. Im in St Charles MO, (suburb of St louis)
and we play on the mississippi.
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"seeray28" wrote in message
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my trim gauge is off abit, but it does not hinder operation so Im not
worried about it I usually trim out till the boat starts bouncing and
then
go in till it just stops..
So it will "bounce" when trimmed out to far? Like an up/down bounce?
(I always wondered how to find the right trim setting)
Fuel milage: I was worried about that as well. also you gotta take in
mind
that the fuel tank is a little goofy. since its shaped like two boxes
staked
on eachother with the top box half as big as the bottom, and the fuel
sender
is on the top, our gas gauge is going to be inaccurate. One of these
days
Im
going to measure how much gas that top portion holds and mark that on
the
tank .
Spot on! - that tank shape accounts for that first 1/4 going so fast.
Top speed Yeah accidents happen. The first nite my wife and I had ours
out
it accidently jumped to 4500 rpm..
Fibreglass boats or wood or steel or concrete or playdough or Leggo's
This
boat is rough at top speed.
I wonder if this is normal? Or just the design of the boat.
After all, it *is* and entry level boat that MSRP's uner $10K.
WOT: I have never had a boat that did exactly what it should, thats the
part
that amazes me. The book said 4800 rpm, Ill be damned the boat does
4800rpm.
I guess thats a benefit of owning somthing new.
I gotcha. Cool. I've only been up to 4500 once/twice. (only 10 hours)
Dont worry about the noise of the engine. If you look at this link you
will
see that its GONNA BE LOUD
I wonder if one can line the inside of the engine cover with that
foil coated fiberglass insulation that the older Bayliners have?
http://www.boattest.com/Yes-results-434.aspx
Thats some cool data! - thanks !
Sweet spot: I think its wierd that at 3200rpm its totally happy, but
at
3100 it bitches and fights but at 3300 It bounces and complains and you
cant
talk over it
Thats just the natual resonance of the vessel frame, and drive line.
My plugs looked great, was thinking of running a compression check just
for
the hell of it but got lazy, besides my wife started to laugh at me and
said
" just cant leave well enough alone can ya" thats when I decided to wax
it
and not work on it
Yup, waxing mine now. Although, and since I got a brand new
compression gague, and since I plan on anti-seizing the plugs,
I'll take a compression test for you and let you know what it is.
Thermostat: I have owned about 10 boats over the years and worked on
about
20 boats over the years. Never in all that time had I got/found a rock
stuck
in the t-stat. The night we picked up the boat, when the mechanic was
giving
us the " we are going to try to eliminate any liability " tour, he
mentioned
the temp gauge and said " if the temp gauge does not move off 120 then
that
means you have a rock stuck in the thermostat, try going full throttle
to
blow it out" .
DAMMIT that rock has been in there for about 6 hours now. I already
removed
one and another just took its place. To hell with it, if it wants to
come
out it can come out on its own...
Isn't there a screen on the pickup ? funny that small debris
like that doesn't hurn the impeller or anything like that.
so are you going to go out on the water today (7/4) I did last nite BIG
FREAKING MISTAKE. got tossed around like a pinball.
Is that what thats all about? I too went out yesturday, and I
couldn't go over about 20 with all the chop, wish/wash stuff.
Also, and on that rough idle "loping" and stuff.... Looking
around on the web, it doesn't appear that this engine has
much of a flywheel (other than starter ring gear). In a car,
you either have a torque converter, or a full-on thick
flywheel/pressure plate/clutch, both of which has a fair
amount of weigh to give you the inerta to act as a good
flywheel to smooth out the loping at idle.
;
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"seeray28" wrote in message
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You know, I never really noticed that my trim gauge is off, thanks
now
I
see
that mine is the same as yours.
So yours is off a little bit too then ?
In regards to the od oil I added maybe 20 cc to bring it up to the
spot
where the oil was the night I bought the boat ( slightly above the
full
line) since then that is where it has stayed.
Same here. Just had it out for another 6 hours today,
and it didn't move at ALL after adding that 20 cc .
I have about 35 hours on mine so far , since I first got the boat I
have
noticed that the fuel consumption is actually getting better. Either
the
engine is starting to loosen up or I am getting better with the trim
,
all
I
know is that when we first got it, it would take 6 gallons to get to
our
favorite area on the river and back. Now we are down to 4 gallons..
Cool, cause I was worried about that. SAME thing - took me 1/4
tank to get out to that favorite sopt which didn't seem that far.
Also,
you will notice that the tank/gague is non linier near full - the
first
1/4
tank goes fast, but takes a long long time to get down to 1/4 tank,
and
when it does get to 1/4 tank, you can peek in there on the right of
the
engine compartment, and it seems more like a 1/2 tank is left.
Have you
taken it up to its top speed yet (oh wait you cant till 20 ish
hours)
Ah, well, I think I "accidently" slipped and hit full throttle.
it does 45 Mph, easy.
IT RIDES LIKE HELLin slight chop,
Man, no **** dude! - it beat the HELL out
of me today with slight chop. That bothers me
a little bit, but I'm new to fiberglass boats, so
I don't know smooth from rought. However
when I could stand going more that about 25
or 30, people were passing me up like nothing.
but then again it is a 17.5 foot boat.
Well, yeah, and maybe thats the downside of
this boat. Price was good, but its no yacht.
I think its funny that the book say WOT is 4800 and
that the tach hits 4800 at wot no more no less. Ive never
had a boat do that before.
Is that good, or bad? (new to these boats) So
not sure what you mean by "you never had a boat do
that before " - you mean hit 4800 at WOT no
matter what?
But I gottta say, anything over 4000 for this motor
just "seems" too fast. Just the general sound of
it and all, just seems like its not happy over 4000.
One thing I wish bayliner would have done is fill the area under the
floor
with some form of insulation. It does get kinda loud with the waves
and
ripples filtering thru the hull.
Ah, BINGO! I said the SAME thing to by buddy today.
(You are sopt-on on calling em on this boat)
ANother thing I found was that this boat really likes 3200 rpm. or
28mph.
At
that speed your actually moving and not a sitting duck, and the ride
is
so
much smoother.
Dang dude, this is cool. That is my EXACT same observation!
It has some natural sweep-spot or something, and it really likes
EXACTALLY that 3200/28 Mph. Isn't that weird ?
One last thing, I talked to the mechanic the nite we got the boat,
he
stated
that there was no anti-sieze compound on the spark plugs. I took out
the
plugs and put some one, I wuold suggest you do the same..
Oh wow, thanks for the tip dude! I got tons of that
anti-seeze out in the garage. When you took out the
plugs, how'd they look ?
So have you gotten a rock stuck in your thermostat yet.
Ah, uh-oh... Is this a common problem? I did notice
that it runs at a little over 175 (I'da thought a little cooler)
Steve
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I have the exact same boat. after the second time out I had to
add
od
oil
to
the monitor/resivior, since then I havent had to add oil (about
15
hours
ago). I think that when the dealer installs the drive they are
not
getting
all the air out of the system. At least thats my assumption.
How is the boat running otherwise. When your at idle does the
engine
sound
like it wants to die due to too low of idle. Mine idles fine but
has
that
too low of idle setting lope.
Dude!, this is scary! - reading this is like listening to "me"!
You describe EXACTALLY what I've noticed. Cool.
So, yeah, it was after the secod time I noticed the oil
go down some. The first time out really didn't count
since it was like gor 10-15 minutes, and I think I got it
up on a slow plane for like 15 seconds max, then came in.
Runs GREAT. And yeah, it is a charactoristic for this
3.0 to have that "too low of an idle lope/wanting to die
sound/feel" - even my neighbor kept mentioning this.
But it never does die, I'll give it that. Being new to big
boats (non-Zodiac boats), the guy I was with kept
having me practice coming into the dock at 90 degrees
and turning it to get it to so sideways and walk it in to
the dock. Anyways, that was all idling maneouvers,
and throughout that whole time it was loping and
sounding like it wanted to die. but it never ever does.
So quick Q, when you had to add oil, how much
diid you have to add? Also, do me a favor, go out
and check your trim gague. Turn the key on, (put in
ear plugs for that blaring alarm), and run the drive unit
all the way down then check to see exactally where the
trim gague points. Mine is not pointing exactally on
the full down position on the gague - its up 1/8 inch
from the full down mark, and hte sender is set as far
as it can be set to one side. no biggie.
So tell me more - how many hours you got on
yours so far ? This is so fun! (being able to talk
to someone with he exact sam boat) that rocks!
Thanks!!
Steve
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Got my new 2005 Bayliner 17.5 Capi out on the BIG lake
for the fist time the other night for about 6 hours or so, and
I noticied that the little plastic "drive lube oil" resivour
was
down about 1/2 inch - is this normal ? I checked it just
before
I went out, and it was a tad bit over the top line of the
operating
range, now its right between the two lines. So where did this
little bit of oil go? Its not much, I know, just wondering if
its
normal for a brand new boat be using any grear lube oil at
all.
(i.e., isn't this a closed system?) Or maybe that now since I
gave it a good work-out out on the lake, that its just
settled,
or filled in all of the air pockets/voids in the outdrive?
Thanks!