"Ignoramus20427" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:59:56 GMT, NOYB wrote:
From bin Laden's Fatwa in 1996:

" Where was this false courage of yours when the explosion in Beirut took
place on 1983 AD (1403 A.H). You were turned into scattered pits and
pieces
at that time; 241 mainly marines solders were killed. And where was this
courage of yours when two explosions made you to leave Aden in lees than
twenty four hours!

But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous
propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of
the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force,
including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However,
when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American
Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying
disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton
appeared
in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge , but these
threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced
by
Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses
became
very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a
remedy
to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three
Islamic cities of Beirut , Aden and Mogadishu. "

That was quite lucid. "They" have a lot more at stake in Iraq than we
do.


If by "they", you mean the terrorists, than my response is : "Yes, they do".
If the terrorists are unsuccessful in ousting us from Iraq, then they will
have failed in their ultimate goal...which is ousting US troops from the
entire Middle East so that they can establish an Islamic state funded by
control of the region's oil.






For all those who say that we're losing in Iraq, I say this: as long as
we
stay there in the face of adversity, the terrorists have lost. Only when
we
leave, will they have won.

Wars can be lost even with a lot of resolve. A country can lose due to
lack of money, or lack of soldiers. With a all volunteer military and
declining enlistment, that is not very far fetched.

We'll always have a military presence in Iraq. Always.



We will never lose as long as a Bush is President.

That's not going to last beyond the next few years, for sure.

Notice I said *a* Bush...not necessarily George W. Bush.

Bush in 2008. Eight more years.