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On 20 Jun 2005 05:12:27 -0700, wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 21:32:26 -0700, wrote:

Screw the war, but honor the troops.

With all due respect Chuck, the troops are the war. You can't hate
one and love the other - they are one and the same.

Sure one can! While I have respect for the soldiers that were put in
harm's way by Bush, I think that the war they are fighting is riddled
with lies, mistakes, and deceit.

Well, I've stated my case. You cannot separate the two - it's
impossible in the legal, logical, moral and ethical frames of
reference. War is the soldier, the soldier is war - ain't no other
way around it.

If you despise war, then you, by extension, cannot anoint the warrior
as somehow being honorable and above the fray - the guns don't fire by
themselves. It is a willful act to aim, squeeze, shoot and kill the
human you are aiming for. Note the kill - as in dead - murder most
foul if you will.

War is war - you can have an honorable war, you can have a
dishonorable war - the difference between the two is ephemeral because
you still have to aim, shoot and kill the enemy - you are still
killing another human being(s).

Took me a long time and some really intense peer therapy to understand
that concept.

And just because I'm in the mood, there is nothing, absolutely
nothing, like the adrenalin rush you get in close quarters combat.
Nothing in the world can match it.

And that's the last I'll say about it.

Later,

Tom