wrote:

K. Smith wrote:

HarryKrause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:


"MVG" wrote in message
legroups.com...


It seems like cam cleats would be nice to use to hang fenders from the
boat. Stick the line in the cam cleat "too long", then pull on the end
to zip it up backwards until the fender is at the correct height for
the boat/pier/rub rail, then let go, the teeth gripping the line to
prevent the fender from going lower.

I have found two great products:

http://www.schaefermarine.com/hardware.asp (Go to Deck Hardware then
Sure Grip)

and

http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/SCCYSPW1

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Anyone want to contradict that, has used cam cleats in this
application?

Mitch



Why not just hang the fender directly from the cleat?



Because the cam cleat makes it easier to adjust the height of the fender
almost instantaneously.

I use a fender gripping device that allows me to slide the fender line
up or down to accommodate different height docks. I've had them for
about 10 years, and I don't remember the brand name. But I've seen them
at boating supply stores.


Firstly be most careful of this lier he doesn't own a boat & never has,
indeed he didn't even know what a "fender" was a few years ago in this
NG till after one of his BS lies he called them bumpers:-) someone
explained it to him. 10 yrs indeed he's just full of it:-)



Wow, using a LIE to try and defame Harry. How low can you go?


Poor atl simpleton, he follows around after the non boating liar Krause
as proof positive that anyone who believes Krause is an idiot:-)

K

Your Krause lie for the day is the one where he pretends Ullico the
union thug pension fund is actually "his" business, when in reality it's
where he works:-) But the interesting thing here is get a go of how they
spend hard working unionists' money on themselves!!!

I'm not wondering if the liar Krause won't come back & tell us this is a
lie just so unionists' don't twig to what a rip off he & his mates a-)



We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a
401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our
employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two
weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third
year. In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20
days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company
administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model,
except, of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12
paid
holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every
year. Are
they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to
bankruptcy.

Boy...and you had me going there for a minute.

Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our
business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our
business always goes up in a major election year.
You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because
Bush is
such a total failure.


The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless
those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no
one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're
there
in case they're needed.


Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an
employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of
purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic
benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is
increased to
$10,000 per month.