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Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing.
The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I
guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me
luck!


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In any negotiation, the party who prevails will be the one who has the
least emotional need.
Let 'em stew a day or so and take another run at it. You might need to
go to $25,100 to allow some face saving by the seller. If they are
absolutely certain you're not going any higher, they will either sell
you the boat at your price because they can- or turn your business away
because the boat is in short supply and they're willing to gamble that
the next buyer will pay a bit more. (If they're going to turn somebody
away, better its the guy willing to pay $25k than the guy willing to
pay $26.5). There may not be a lot of ham on the bone at $27k on that
boat if it's a price leader and already discounted, but you'd have to
think they'd wash out OK at $25k, if motivated.

Key: pretend to lose interest, and they will become much more willing
to deal.
He who stands around twitching and salivating gets sheared every time.
:-)