You don't need to be licensed to sign off. The small vessel sea servive
form can be signed off by owners as well.

M.


"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
How about sailing instructors, the majority of which do
not have USCG licenses, but they are taking people out
for hire. My boss would not sign off on my documentation
for 151 days of sailing time because he was afraid he'd get
busted by the USCG!

"JG" wrote

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
JG wrote:
After a read of this... The Jones Act and related statutes require
that
vessels used to transport cargo and passengers between U.S. ports be
owned by U.S. citizens, built in U.S. shipyards, and manned by U.S.
citizen crews... it seems like this doesn't really apply to the
various
clubs that rent boats. Many, if not most, of the boats that are in
charter fleets in the US are foreign made (Bene's and such), although
I'm pretty sure they're owned and operated by US citizens. I'm
wondering
if there is some distinction between "between U.S ports" and returning
to the same port, but even that seems like it wouldn't hold for
several
clubs that have multiple facilities.

Bene's aren't made in the US?

The Jones act doesn't apply to uncrewed charters. It does, however,
apply to 6-Pak type charters, if they travel between US ports. A
daysail, or "cruise to nowhere" is probably exempt, but an overnight to
a
nearby US port is not. You should probably consult with the local CG
to
find out their interpretation or if they care.

IIRC, Jaxie used this to claim that a US citizen must always be on
board
a documented vessel.

Small documented vessels can receive an exemption to the "foreign
built"
law for the modest extortion of $300 - I forget exactly what conditions
have to be satisfied, but I know that my boat is eligible. It travels
with the vessel when sold, so sometimes you see a "for sale" add that
says "comes with Jones Act Exemption."

Maybe they are... don't know. I suppose some of them are.

Besides the 6-pak situation, do you know if this is for documented vs.
non-documented vessels or doesn't it matter?

I'll have to give the CG a call at some point.

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