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Doug Kanter wrote:




Almost as well as Caesar!

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Napoleon? Did pretty well for a while, eh?

Butch
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:





On this day in 1862 the French, the one nation that has never
had a
major military victory, had their asses handed to them by the
Mexican
Army.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html

Just another contribution to the French schizoid personality of
feeling superior while actually being inferior. :)

Later,

Tom


Au contraire, mon ami.

You forget that the French won the French Revolution.
Of course, they were fighting the French.


Lest we forget, the US did not win the two major fighting wars it
was involved in after WW II.


Hehehe. Gulf Wars I and II don't "count" in Harry's book (I suppose
because we "won" them).


Neither were major fighting wars against tough, well-trained,
well-led disciplined troops.






It got out with a "draw" in Korea,


Because we figured it would simply take too long and too much money
to kill 1 billion Chinese.





and was whipped by Vietnam. Our sophisticated weaponry and tall
talk enables us to take on and defeat third and fourth rate
military powers.


Actually, we're much better at killing the bad guys than they are at
killing us. If we were in a war for survival (instead of fighting
to help preserve someone elses's freedom halfway around the World),
we'd win hands down.



This is based on what? Your somewhat hazy knowledge of 20th century
history?


Statistics and math. 500,000 Chinese and 1.1 million North Koreans
died during the Korean War. 54,000 American perished. When is dying
at a rate of 20:1 compared to our side, he better outnumber us 21:1 if
he hopes to have anybody standing when all is said and done.





Do you know how many Vietnamese died


3 million.

So what's your point? The Vietnamese died at a rate of 60:1 compared to
Americans in that war.

We lost the war of political wills...not the war of actual armed
conflict.





The number is higher, actually.

We lost the war, period.


3 million dead Vietnamese compared to 58,000 Americans.

We quit because of the lack of political will...not because we were
beaten.


We quit because we lost. We had our butts whipped, and we retreated. Your
revisionism serves you well, I am sure, but...we lost in Vietnam.
The other side won.

The US has not won a major shooting war since 1945. There is no reason to
believe it would "win" a major shooting war now. In fact, the only way to
win such a war is to not have one.

"The only way to win is not to play".

I saw that movie. War Games (1983).

(But that was before SDI) ;-)