JG wrote:
: "Jeff" wrote in message
: ...
:: JG wrote:
::: "Jeff" wrote in message
::: ...
:::
:::: JG wrote:
::::
::::: After a read of this... The Jones Act and related statutes
::::: require that vessels used to transport cargo and passengers
::::: between U.S. ports be owned by U.S. citizens, built in U.S.
::::: shipyards, and manned by U.S. citizen crews... it seems like this
::::: doesn't really apply to the various clubs that rent boats. Many,
::::: if not most, of the boats that are in charter fleets in the US
::::: are foreign made (Bene's and such), although I'm pretty sure
::::: they're owned and operated by US citizens. I'm wondering if there
::::: is some distinction between "between U.S ports" and returning to
::::: the same port, but even that seems like it wouldn't hold for
::::: several clubs that have multiple facilities.
:::::
::::
:::: Bene's aren't made in the US?
::::
:::: The Jones act doesn't apply to uncrewed charters. It does,
:::: however, apply to 6-Pak type charters, if they travel between US
:::: ports. A daysail, or "cruise to nowhere" is probably exempt, but
:::: an overnight to a nearby US port is not. You should probably
:::: consult with the local CG to find out their interpretation or if
:::: they care.
::::
:::: IIRC, Jaxie used this to claim that a US citizen must always be on
:::: board a documented vessel.
::::
:::: Small documented vessels can receive an exemption to the "foreign
:::: built" law for the modest extortion of $300 - I forget exactly
:::: what conditions have to be satisfied, but I know that my boat is
:::: eligible. It travels with the vessel when sold, so sometimes you
:::: see a "for sale" add that says "comes with Jones Act Exemption."
:::
:::
::: Maybe they are... don't know. I suppose some of them are.
:::
::: Besides the 6-pak situation, do you know if this is for documented
::: vs. non-documented vessels or doesn't it matter?
::
:: I thought it applied equally to doc'd and non-doc'd vessels.
:: Otherwise I wouldn't have doc'd my foreign-built vessel. The
:: exemption can only be had for doc'd vessels.
::
:: BTW, have you ever seen a club launch or watertaxi that was not
:: built in the US?
:
: Actually, I've never thought to check. I have a friend who runs a
: watertaxi in the delta. I'll have to give him a call.
::
:::
::: I'll have to give the CG a call at some point.
:::
::
:: A wise move.
:
: Definitely, but it's just as a point of information, since we don't
: have a club launch or water taxi.
hmmm...
headers look ok, but surely not...
can this ganz netKKKoping ****head finally have learned how to not top-post?
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