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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still
question
their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see
a
dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention,
spirits and
money to an organization (the Catholic church)
I wouldn't do it.
which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's
dubious,
at best.
I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree
with
you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the
last
couple of centuries.
Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already
had a
perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with.
Example?
Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples.
I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be
"perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins?
Cannibalism?
Polygamy?
Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which,
like
many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education.
Better
luck next time.
No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug
Kanter. You
and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it
comes down
to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks.
Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research
done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in
fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of
cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were
destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges.
But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do
you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids
you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a
book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by
Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the
author to Prince Philip of Spain.
Geez. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear when I said "the Catholic
church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries".
A couple of centuries means the last 200 years. What terrible acts has
the Catholic church committed in the last 200 years...and how does that
compare to the amount of good that the church has done?
Well, let's see: The church still thinks it can meddle in family planning,
specifically contraception. Since quite a few economic and environmental
problems are the direct result of overpopulation, I'd say that qualifies
as an offense that continues right to this day. Let's see....what else.
Oh..yeah...they won't ordain gay priests*, even though the primary
function of the clergy is to interpret the meaning of life and morality,
and gay people are as likely to have valid, enlightening insights as
anyone else. There's another offense.
You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for dirt. Not a lot
there, eh Dougie? Where does opposing contraception and opposing gay
priests fall on the "Doug Kanter scale of evil-doings"? Is it as bad as,
say, beheading someone because they're not a Muslim? As bad as stoning a
woman to death because she had sex out of marriage? How about the
bloodletting and human sacrifice practiced by those "innocent" Aztecs that
were persecuted by those terrible Catholic Spaniards? Your boy Bartolome
didn't mention much about that in is book, did he?
Where did the hatred of your own race, country and culture stem from? You
probably cheered when the towers fell. On 9/11, that evil empire called
America finally took one on the chin, right Doug? We deserved it for all
the bad things our grandfather's grandfathers did in the past. Correct?
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