Sounds like you got a bad impression. I've lived all over this country and
I see people living the American Dream everywhere ...real life, not movies.
Those that choose to succeed anyway. Many are happy to live off the fat of
the government while others pay for it, or to continue in poverty. That's
their free choice. As mentioned in another email, in some regions of the
country it's hard to be raised in the environment that you were born into
and still have a positive attitude about yourself and what can be done, but
that does NOT mean that it can't be done. People break out of those
situations all the time. Hard? Hell yes, but POSSIBLE. Sure beats the
'NOT possible' you find in so many other places in this world. Nobody ever
gave me a nickel and my parents were broke (still are ...by their own
choices). I'm living the American Dream by my own effort, 100%. Big house,
over $100k salary, family, security ...and with no help from anybody other
than myself. Where there's a will, there's a way.

You prefer Europe? What do you have to come up with as a down payment for a
real house on a real piece of land? 50%? More? And how much does that
house cost? How long, at your current income and tax rate does it take to
save that much money? What is your current tax rate? Over 50%? That's not
success...


Brian



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Brian D a écrit :
Spoken like a true Canadian socialist who's never experience a truly free
capitalist society where innovation and free market rule are what provide
people with their life's dreams. I would recommend that you try it
before you judge it.

And if you are going to spout off about labor, let's get this straight
...we agree. But you have to clarify your statement and say UNION labor.
Unions are disruptive to free enterprise, increase cost of goods sold,
cost of manufacturing, etcetera. In today's world of litigation, there
is no need for labor unions. They are maintained by the corrupt few who
don't have our best interests in mind.

We're in a world market and I'm not complaining. The pendulum swings
both ways. Our average incomes will go down for awhile, but they'll come
back up ...at least for those who are awake enough to be able to work
within the system to their own advantage. That's always been the rule.
You have to be willing to adapt and change with the tides. If not, then
you take what you get and have no reason to complain. May the best man
(woman, country, region) win.

Brian D
You should watch again "roger and me" or "the big one" to have a clear
sight on the "life's dreams" of these american citizens..
Of course they are not part of the "happy few" that live the american
dream..