John H wrote:
I guess we can do away with *any* form of welfare then.


???

I don't see the connection between the gov't propping up credit-card
addicted middle class idiots & welfare... which BTW has been "ended as
we know it" for aboud a decade. Isn't it time you updated your prejudices?



.. the public library is a great place to
start... costs nothing, nobody trying to sell you anything, no vested
interests pushing their "plan."


And just as much bad advice, except it's 'free' bad advice.


And therefor doesn't start you off in the hole.

The fact that nobody at at the library is deliberately trying to sell
you an investment program or plan... which of course is profitable to
them, but not necessarily to you.... is the biggest reason to start there.


People currently have no choice as to the investment of their SS money.



That's largely because it's not invested.

And there is no reason why the people should have yet another intrusive
gov't program that takes money away from them. If you want the people to
have choice, why not let them keep that money in the first place?


Who said anything about 'another' program taking money? Same program, same
money. Just goes to a different place.

Does SS manage private investment accounts now?

Shake your head no

Will they under Bush's plan?

Nod your head yes.

Does that mean that the gov't is doing something new that it didn't do
before?

Nod your head yes.

Do you genuinely think that this is going to make the gov't department
involved smaller (which is supposedly one of Bush's few conservative
principles)?



A reduction in SS taxes would be better all the way around.... except
that President Bush could not then funnel that money into the "right"
pockets...


I'd go for that, but those without the discipline to put the money into
investments would be in the same shape they're in now.

And your point is?


I realize you can't discuss without making your Bush attacks.

You seem to think that pointing out facts is attacking President Bush.

DSK