"BCITORGB" wrote in message
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Scott, commenting on many (most) in Canada getting immediate
ca
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Yup. While at the same time, teenagers who need knee surgery
have to
wait
three years.
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Notwithstanding the protestations of rick, several of us from
Canada
have commented on, and admitted, that one of the consequences
of our
style of healthcare is that, for some procedures, there are
waiting
lists. That's a fact. But it's a price we're willing to pay, so
that we
can provide immediate care for most of the people, for most
procedures,
most of the time.
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Despite the jingoistic spewing of others, here is a ase of a man,
not a teen, waiting for new knees. 2 1/2 years. It's so bad
that it is now bone on bone and his pain meds have been upped to
morphine.
http://www.pentictonherald.ca/?nopic...ate=2004/09/15

This guy isn't willing to wait. Why would you support that he
has to?

Then there are the people dying from heat problems while waiting.
http://www.ices.on.ca/file/14_CVA_Chapter12.pdf.








So let's take the cae you bring up: teenagers who need knee
surgery. I
don't know if teenagers in Canada who need knee surgery nmust
wait 3
years as you claim. [Aside: you might be able to pull such an
isolated
case out of the archives somewhere, but it is unlikely to be
the rule.]


Now let's switch our focus to the USA for one moment. Let's
also assume
a teenager who needs knee surgery. Let's further assume that
this kid's
family is uninsured.

Can we expect that she'll get immediate attention at her local
hospital? Or will she need to wait? Is it likely that as people
with
insurance arrive, some "bureaucrat" in the hospital will
priorize and
thereby establish a "waiting list"?

Can you assure me that, under the American system, the teenager
will
get immediate attention, ahead of those with (a) more emergent
need
(after all, she did arrive ahead of them) and (b) those with
equivalent
need but covered by insurance?

Tell me about your waiting lists for non-emergent cases without
insurance, OK?

frtzw906