On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:39:57 -0500, "Jeff Rigby" wrote:


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:


It's been my observation that most of the really successful Blacks are
because of their grandparents.


It's been my observation that "most of the really successful Blacks" are
because (sic) of their hard work, just like most successful whites.

What a wonderfully mind-expanding forum this is.

One of our friends just finished her medical residency at a nearby
teaching hospital. She's 36 or 37, orphaned while a young teen,
grandparents on another continent, and a single mom. She had foster
parents who provided her with shelter until she was 18 and then she
left. On her own ever since. Oh, and she's black. She got to where she
is today by working her butt off.

Ke-rist.


It's a given that successful means they worked their tails off. Where
did
this woman get her values? Some life lesson made a difference. You are
not
talking about an American here who grew up in the black culture. In any
case well done to her.




She's as American as I am. She was born in the Boston area and grew up
in Roxbury, which for many years has been a pretty grim area.

I've encountered a great number of "really successful Blacks" in my
life. They're successful because their parents imbued them with the
proper values and because of that, they worked hard to get where they
are. Just like most successful white folks. I believe your "grandparents
factor" is a canard. I'm not saying that solid grandparents aren't a
help for any kid of any color, but to state that most black success is
due to grandparents is more than a little racist.

Where do you get racist? To say that grandparents are a critical resource t
o our society and that they are being wasted when they retire to Florida is
racist?? My example occurs with ALL peoples but it is most apparent with
blacks. Hmm, that's where you call it racist, I call it reality. Blacks
ARE disadvantaged and discriminated against because of many factors, they
earn less and have to work harder. THUS they have less time to raise their
children, grandparent are needed more in that situation.

Because some parents do a good job and have time and energy to properly
devote to their children does not obviate my point.


Jeff, in 2002, if you were born Black, there was almost a 70% chance that your
mother was unmarried.

That is a fact. Liberals can use facts like that in their desire to maintain the
dependance of the majority of blacks on liberal policies. If a conservative
should use statistics like that for *any* reason, he is a racist.

Harry is well known for attempting to turn any mention of blacks by a
conservative into a 'race issue'.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."