John Fereira wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in
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Cracked Pumpkinhead wrote:
Hey WILF!!!!!!

DITTO!!!!!!!!! I'm up, I'm down...... ARGHHHHHH

I mean.....I don't want to make my Civic into a convertible and I
sure
don't want to crunch anyone else on the highway with a 17' or 18'
pretty red Kayak (I prefer red tee hee) but................ ****
DAMN
**** DAMN **** (pops always said I had a potty mouth) here's the
lowdown: $ 530.00 just for the rack (with the suggested stretcher
bar
thingy's required for my tiny little car)
$ 150.00 Kayak cradle thingy (Ughhh)
$ 30.00 Installation
Okay, wait now I'm not finished yet........... total those numbers
up
and whatcha get.....
$ 710.00 right? Wrong.........I live in lovely Ontario and will
have
to pay 15% taxes on top of that which comes to a whoppin $816.50
smackeroonie's

ARGHHHHH FRICKA FRACKA GR(*#&(*^@(#^$&^!

Ya know....... I was searching the Auto classifieds I was so
****ed
off! Go figure......I won't pay $816.50 to put a darn rack system
on
my car but instead GET A WHOLE NEW VEHICLE! HAHAHAHA. There's a
method to my madness. I'm not quite sure yet but I'll let ya know
what that is when I figure it out.

I'll carry the damn thing all the way to Algonquin before I give
em $
816.50 DAGNABBIT! Regardless, I second the "can we get a
resolution
before the summer?" question.

Phewwwwwwww ........... I feel much better now.

So, hows everybody doin?

DiAne
http://cracked_pumpkinhead.tripod.com/shaggies

Hey C-P, you mention that you have a Honda Civic, which is about as
short a car as there is for putting a Kayak on.

At a symposium a few years ago I saw one of those new Mini's by BMW
with not
one, but two NDK Romany's on it.

I have a folding sea kayak, called a Folbot. This is a SOF (skin on
Frame) boat that can be dissasembled, and put inside your car,
Voila'
no rack needed, and a bunch of problems solved.

Personally, I think that someone just getting into the sport is
better off
looking at something more general purpose and not look at niche
market
models. A folbot may be great if you understand the advantages and
limitations but most people getting started likely don't have a clear
idea
regarding the type of paddling they'll be doing in two years. Some
people
don't care if they ever learn how to roll a kayak, while for others
it's
about the first thing they want to learn after paddling forward. For
the
latter folkes, a kayak with a large open cockpit and 30" wide is not
going
to be a good choice.

From what I've seen folding boat advocates are almost as overzealous
in
their recommendations for a kayak than wood boat builders. Even
though I've
built two wood boats myself and love my cedar strip boat, I realize
that it
works for me and the kind of paddling I like doing and wouldn't
suggest that
building a cedar strip kayak would be the best choice for someone
just
getting started in the sport.

You are right on John, that is why I recommended to CP that she check
out renting some boats first so she know that hard shell seakayaking is
what she is interested in. She may have already done this, and have a
good idea of the boat she is interested in. Otherwise, continue renting
for a while, and you don't have to worry about transporting it either.
She might even want to try a folder, and then find out she wants to do
WW. A WW would fit nicely on the Civic. TnT