"''''''No offense, but what do you expect to squeeze out of a "discussion"
with
the Bush-Military Apologist? Certainly not reality.''''''''


LOL,,, what do you expect to get from a "discussion" with you krause???
Reality????? lol,,, ouch,,, krause,,, you screw up on the meds today
krause??? Or mix too many with the good stuff from the upscale liquor store
your buddy works at??? lol,,, ouch,,,,

Shouldn't you be out feeding the little critters?? ,,, lol,,,oo my


Reality,,,,??/ lol,,, reality,,, hmmmm now there is a word that is farthest
from reach during a "discussion" with krause,,,, lollll ,,,,








"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:
John H wrote:

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:38:59 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:22:41 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:



Jimcomma! Don't just let our discussion go 'cause you got yourself
trapped.


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 02:33:18 GMT, "Jim,"
wrote:




John H wrote:



On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:05:00 GMT, "Jim,"
wrote:





John H wrote:




On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:35:28 GMT, "Jim,"
wrote:






John H wrote:






On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:16:36 GMT, "Jim,"
wrote:







JimH wrote:



Should not commanders *KNOW* what their troops are doing?



*That* is a stupid question, Jimcomma. I know you're not
stupid, but perhaps you
know little of command.

A commander is responsible for everything in his unit. They
are not God. Whether
or not they *should* know everything their troops do is
immaterial. They can't.

Did your parents know everything you did as a kid? Were you
able to get away
with anything?


Your first line says it all

"A commander is responsible for everything in his unit."



Read the rest. Maybe you'll learn something. Answer the
questions. After all,
your parents were also responsible for you. Remember?


And if I were to damage someones property, or such they would be
held responsible.



Why would they have allowed you to do it?


They wouldn't have permitted it -- but they would be responsible --
just as commanders are responsible for their troops. And given the
time the abuse went on, I find it very hard to believe the
commanders didn't know what was happening.



If they wouldn't have permitted it, how could you possibly have done
it, given
that they must have surely *KNOWN* what their child was doing?

As to responsibility, your parents may have been fiscally
responsible when you
damaged someone's property, at least up to the deductible on their
insurance.
But, were they punished when *you* got caught playing 'doctor' with
little,
ten-year-old Mary Sue?

A week or so ago, a child (14?) shot a school bus driver. Surely the
parents,
much closer to their kids than a commander to *his* kids, must have
know the
child had a gun. Therefore, the parents should be sent to prison for
allowing
the shooting to occur. Actually, the policies of the parents,
allowing the child
to watch TV, probably encouraged the child to commit the shooting.

Your logic is nicely anti-administration and anti-military, but it
is also
nicely twisted.


I thought you summed up things rather ell when you posted the
following.

"A commander is responsible for everything in his unit."



So was your mother!

"Hoisted on your own petard," as they say.



The difference being that until I was an adult, my parents were called
to account for my (very few) Misdeeds. Somehow the commanders are
given a pass.



You best stick to cut'n'pastin.


Which part of the following do you NOT agree with?

The difference being that until I was an adult, my parents were called
to account for my (very few) Misdeeds. Somehow the commanders are given
a pass.



No offense, but what do you expect to squeeze out of a "discussion" with
the Bush-Military Apologist? Certainly not reality.