BCITORGB wrote:
Tink..... AAaaaaarrrrhhhhggggg!!!!

I don't kow why you keep doing this, but it makes no sense. You've
gone
to great lengths to present a scenario that has nothing to do with
the
question I asked.

Let's keep it simple, OK? Let's accept that JC, and you, and I, and
every citizen are subject to civil law. OK? That's a given. And even
if
we feel that the civil is stupid, it's a given. Further, it may not
measure up to a "higher law", it is still a given. Are we agreed on
that?

OK, if we're OK with that, let's turn to the writing of laws, not the
obeying of laws. Can we agree that that's why we elect politicians?
That is, our politician "make" the law. Am I correct?

OK, the question regarding "What would JC do?" has NOTHING to do with
obeying the law. We ask "What would JC do?" when it comes to MAKING
public policy. Once such example might be capital punishment. Think
of
JC as a congressman. Which way would JC vote on this issue.

Please, Tink, let's not discuss whether or not you or JC
would/should/can/must obey civil law. That has nothing to do with the
point being discussed.

frtzw906

Fair enough, Jesus would most likely do now what He did then. He did
not do what the religious/political leaders of his day thought He
would/ could/ should do then. So I expect that we would be surprised
today as well. Then, He recognized the need for civil laws in a society
made up of less than perfect humans, and so I expect that he would
support and vote for laws now, that would regulate the behavior of men
now for the well being, peace, and safty of society at large, with
laws that they could understand and enforce. This may or may not
include capital punishment, depending on the social structure of that
specific society.

There was no attempt then to enforce the higher laws on society at
large, and I do not expect that He would do differently now, at least
not until we are willing to change the nature of society at large,
acknowledge Him not as a politician, but as Lord, and we his subjects
are changed as well at the core of our nature. That has not happened to
date, should in the future, and at that time I would expect to see the
enforcement of the higher law.

By the way was that a foghorn I heard at the first of your last post?
Hopefully the fog is clearing. Though if you had ask your real question
in the first place, I would have been able to answer more directly,
without having to plow thrugh so much other "stuff." But then sometimes
we have to plow to find what we are really asking. I do not know that
you want to be, where you find yourself, after the fog clears, that is
another issue. TnT