A Usenet persona calling itself Nisarel wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:

A Usenet persona calling itself Nisarel wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:

And much higher rates of self-defense use of arms to PREVENT
crime victimization. Estimates of the lawful use of firearms for
self-defense vary from the FBI approved number of more than
80,000 per year (which is almost twice the incidence of violent
assaults) to more than two million per year by Kleck, Lott et
al.

Kleck's DGU research is suspect because his estimate produces a
rate of DGU woundings far in excess of what is actually observed.

Prove it.

I take it you haven't actually read Kleck's DGU research.

Yes, I have.


Kleck even notes that the DGU research produces wounding rates far in excess
from what
actually occurs.

And, he explains why this does not impeach his conclusions as well.



Lott's gun research is simply fraudulent.

Sez

The Donald Kennedy, the Editor of Science. Says the NAS Firearms and Violence
Panel.

Notorious anti-gun polemicists. They have yet to disprove his work.



you...and HCI. Unfortunately for you, both authors have been
extensively peer-reviewed and their methodology, data and
conclusions are sound.

snicker

"extensively peer-reviewed"

That's a quote from an idiot who doesn't have a clue.

Lott's gun research was exhaustively reviewed by a panel of experts from the
National
Academy of Sciences.

Who are all exceedingly biased on the issue of guns.


They found that his results don't hold up, that the data contains errors, and
that the statistical
methods he used contain significant flaws.

All of which claims he has authoritatively refuted in his subsequent
editions.


It's always funny to find an ignorant gun-nut fool like you.


It's not funny at all to find anti-gun nut fools like you. You're dangerous
and you get people killed.
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