JimH wrote:

"Jim," wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


Bunch of stuff snipped in the interest of brevity.


No need for rebuttal, let's talk when the DOW tops 11,700 (high under
the Clinton administration)


You are changing the subject. The Dow is not a sole indicator of a good
economy.

Heck, it was below 3,000 for decades, even in the glory years of the
economy.

Seems to me the "Glory Years" would be defined as the high point -- as in
1999

Besides, the 11,700 mark was based on dot com companies with no
assets....and bust they went.

You would prefer the S&P 500? -- hit 1199.40 4/20/98

UN employment -- here's numbers from 99 to date
1999-12-01 4.0
2000-01-01 4.0
2000-02-01 4.1
2000-03-01 4.0
2000-04-01 3.8
2000-05-01 4.0
2000-06-01 4.0
2000-07-01 4.0
2000-08-01 4.1
2000-09-01 3.9
2000-10-01 3.9
2000-11-01 3.9
2000-12-01 3.9
2001-01-01 4.2
2001-02-01 4.2
2001-03-01 4.3
2001-04-01 4.4
2001-05-01 4.3
2001-06-01 4.5
2001-07-01 4.6
2001-08-01 4.9
2001-09-01 5.0
2001-10-01 5.3
2001-11-01 5.6
2001-12-01 5.7
2002-01-01 5.7
2002-02-01 5.7
2002-03-01 5.7
2002-04-01 5.9
2002-05-01 5.8
2002-06-01 5.8
2002-07-01 5.8
2002-08-01 5.7
2002-09-01 5.7
2002-10-01 5.7
2002-11-01 5.9
2002-12-01 6.0
2003-01-01 5.8
2003-02-01 5.9
2003-03-01 5.8
2003-04-01 6.0
2003-05-01 6.1
2003-06-01 6.3
2003-07-01 6.2
2003-08-01 6.1
2003-09-01 6.1
2003-10-01 6.0
2003-11-01 5.9
2003-12-01 5.7
2004-01-01 5.7
2004-02-01 5.6
2004-03-01 5.7
2004-04-01 5.5
2004-05-01 5.6
2004-06-01 5.6
2004-07-01 5.5
2004-08-01 5.4
2004-09-01 5.4
2004-10-01 5.5
2004-11-01 5.4
2004-12-01 5.4
2005-01-01 5.2

Total US Jobs Offshored

From 01/01/2000 To 02/26/2005

Jobs Offshored 348,926
Jobs Lost 166,631

National debt -- 1999 $5,776,091,314,225.33
Current $7,722,693,241,750.83 And climbing -- see
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$2.30 *BILLION* per day since September 30, 2004!

Military lives lost about 1500 and counting

Us allies --- many less than 1999

Respect for the US -- falling

Respect for POTUS -- about bottomed out.

How would you prefer to measure things? Maybe Haliburton profits? Exxon?
Bush familys net worth?


I could care less about the *UN* unemployment figures.

Maybe because you're employed, but the UN employed sure care

Here are the actual figures from 1990 to date:

http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/feddal/ru

Went there, and the numbers agree with what I posted -- I don't understand
the numbers you posted -- what are they?

Then you can address the other questions I raised.


1990 01335.4
1990 02995.3
1990 03005.2
1990 04775.4
1990 05665.4
1990 06665.2
1990 07005.5
1990 08225.7
1990 09885.9
1990 10665.9
1990 11226.2
1990 12446.3
1991 01 226.4
1991 02 886.6
1991 03 886.8
1991 04 446.7
1991 05 116.9
1991 06 006.9
1991 07 886.8
1991 08 336.9
1991 09 006.9
1991 10 007.0
1991 11 337.0
1991 12 447.3
1992 01337.3
1992 02337.4
1992 03997.4
1992 04007.4
1992 05227.6
1992 06777.8
1992 07777.7
1992 08997.6
1992 09667.6
1992 10997.3
1992 11557.4
1992 12227.4
1993 01 887.3
1993 02 777.1
1993 03 447.0
1993 04 117.1
1993 05 997.1
1993 06 887.0
1993 07 336.9
1993 08 226.8
1993 09 556.7
1993 10 886.8
1993 11 446.6
1993 12 666.5
1994 01226.6
1994 02556.6
1994 03776.5
1994 04226.4
1994 05666.1
1994 06006.1
1994 07116.1
1994 08996.0
1994 09115.9
1994 10885.8
1994 11995.6
1994 12225.5
1995 01 885.6
1995 02 885.4
1995 03 885.4
1995 04 665.8
1995 05 445.6
1995 06 005.6
1995 07 005.7
1995 08 225.7
1995 09 995.6
1995 10 555.5
1995 11 005.6
1995 12 555.6
1996 01665.6
1996 02115.5
1996 03885.5
1996 04885.6
1996 05885.6
1996 06995.3
1996 07775.5
1996 08445.1
1996 09225.2
1996 10005.2
1996 11665.4
1996 12665.4
1997 01 665.3
1997 02 885.2
1997 03 445.2
1997 04 115.1
1997 05 554.9
1997 06 775.0
1997 07 994.9
1997 08 884.8
1997 09 664.9
1997 10 664.7
1997 11 554.6
1997 12 774.7
1998 01774.6
1998 02224.6
1998 03774.7
1998 04884.3
1998 05114.4
1998 06224.5
1998 07444.5
1998 08004.5
1998 09994.6
1998 10114.5
1998 11994.4
1998 12444.4
1999 01 664.3
1999 02 554.4
1999 03 444.2
1999 04 444.3
1999 05 224.2
1999 06 444.3
1999 07 994.3
1999 08 664.2
1999 09 664.2
1999 10 994.1
1999 11 004.1
1999 12 884.0
2000 01444.0
2000 02884.1
2000 03224.0
2000 04003.8
2000 05224.0
2000 06554.0
2000 07554.0
2000 08774.1
2000 09443.9
2000 10113.9
2000 11883.9
2000 12003.9
2001 01 004.2
2001 02 334.2
2001 03 554.3
2001 04 224.4
2001 05 774.3
2001 06 884.5
2001 07 884.6
2001 08 114.9
2001 09 335.0
2001 10 885.3
2001 11 335.6
2001 12 005.7
2002 01005.7
2002 02665.7
2002 03775.7
2002 04335.9
2002 05115.8
2002 06445.8
2002 07555.8
2002 08555.7
2002 09885.7
2002 10115.7
2002 11995.9
2002 12776.0
2003 01 995.8
2003 02 995.9
2003 03 445.8
2003 04 226.0
2003 05 446.1
2003 06 776.3
2003 07 666.2
2003 08 006.1
2003 09 116.1
2003 10 116.0
2003 11 885.9
2003 12 885.7
2004 01005.7
2004 02005.6
2004 03885.7
2004 04995.5
2004 05335.6
2004 06445.6
2004 07005.5
2004 08005.4
2004 09885.4
2004 10445.5
2004 11225.4
2004 12995.4
2005 01 445.2And your point is?



Stick with one point Jim, then perhaps I can address it. You keep changing
it to suit your needs.


The point is the economy -- I asked where you got your numbers --
because using your URL, I found numbers that agree with me. "Changing
the subject" seems to be your way of dodging the question.

I gave multiple examples of a troubled economy -- you tried to address
one of them which to quote you "I could care less about the *UN*
unemployment figures"

What ARE the numbers you posted?????