On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:57:04 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:42:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:25:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:
Wal-Mart's Colorado Unit Rejects Union

3 minutes ago

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (NYSE:WMT - news) on Friday said
workers at its Colorado tire shop have voted to reject union representation, a
step which deals another blow to efforts to unionize at the world's largest
retailer.

A Wal-Mart statement said tire and lube express associates at its Loveland
supercenter voted 17-1 to reject representation by the United Food & Commercial
Workers Union.
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What a shame. Wow, seventeen to one.

Wal-Crap's been closing its stores after employees vote for a union.

BTW, Herring, as a sub teacher, aren't you drawing the benefits
negotiated by a labor union?

Actually, in this state anyway, subs aren't part of the collective
bargaining agreement because they aren't subject to the same
educational requirements beyond having a basic degree qualification.

I don't think they are in any other state either, but I'm not sure of
that.

Are you paying your dues, or are you the typical Republican freeloader?

Subs in this state don't pay union dues.

That's also true of Virginia. Teachers don't pay union dues either, if they have
a little sense and don't get frightened into joining by some union hack.

No offense, but my wife is one of those "hacks" - a fairly important
one to boot - and she, along with others are trying to fix things
instead of hiding behind some notion of independence.

The good thing about negotiated contracts certain aspects of the
teaching/administrating a school can be defined - don't forget that
you don't have a lot of protection from an administration determined
to get you if they wish.

It's not a good ting to take a free ride John unless you are capable
of negotiating your own separate contract.

As I said, no offense.

Later,

Tom

No offense taken. Perhaps your wife employs techniques different than those I've
seen used on new teachers by older union reps who happen to also be teachers. I
don't agree that all who are receiving the pay are deserving of same. And, I've
seen that an administration that is determined can get rid of a teacher even
*with* the union representation.

I didn't fear the administrators and, in fact, got along very well with them,
even though I wrote several letters to our local paper.

I would *love* to see the unions get involved in fixing something, like student
discipline, rather than attempt to take credit for everything the school board
does that *is* helpful. Most of the union effort in this county seems directed
against the other union! (I.e., the NEA folks against the AFT folks.)

The local counties are all in competition for good teachers here. I think that
helps our pay (or what used to be my pay) more than the unions.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes