It would be a huge factor if, as you say, the boat rounds up as it's
supposed to do. What do you think will happen next... probably a
broach...then the same thing on the other tack.

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"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message
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Again, I dissagree. We are talking about a knockdown here. A knockdown
means the boat is laying on it's side, perhaps with a small amount of
forward momentum left. The shape of the hull will make the boat round up
into the wind. At this point, the jib is not holding much or any air. Is
not a factor, at least not a big one.

I have seem many sailors think that being heeled way over is a
'knockdown'. It isn't.

Lonny

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"JG" wrote in message
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Not necessarity, and not only when it's convenient. Big jib, lots of lee
helm, especially if overpowered.

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"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message
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You probably won't capsize but you will suffer a damn knock down, which
can be bad If you can turn up into the wind it means you still have
rudder control.

When and if you get over so far as to loose rudder control, the boat
will round up nicely into the wind on it's own. It really is not that
big of a deal in 15 knot winds. In fact I would suggest that you take
the boat to various limits, and intentionally do some things 'wrong' in
15 knot winds so that you learn how your boat responds. It will be in
stronger winds and big seas that you do not want to make those mistakes.

Lonny

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Danny,

Welcome to the world of Cruising.

You probably won't capsize but you will suffer a damn knock down, which
can be bad If you can turn up into the wind it means you still have
rudder control. This mean you still have enough hull in the water.

You do need to give a little more information. Is your Genny hanked on
to a head stay or do you have a Furler?
There are some things you can do. First you need to be sure of your
sail
trim. That "Pulley" as you call it, is a Jib sheet tie down. It should
be positioned so that if you continued the line that is connected to
the
Clew of the Genny it would bisect the the clew corner into two equal
halves for normal wind conditions. As the wind increases you want to
more the Jib Sheet toward the stern. This is to increase the twist in
the Genny to release some of the wind pressure on the upper section of
the sail. Most boats have the car (Pulley) mounted on a sliding track
to
do this.

Next, if you're a Hobie sailor your training tells you to bump wind (
I'm working on converting a Hobie sailor to my crew right now) You
spoke of the tie on the Lee side Cleat. Don't tie the damn sheet, wrap
it on the cleat. Even better until you get to know your boat better,
don't wrap it on the Lee side cleat. After you've set the tension with
the winch, cross the sheet over to the windward side of the boat and
wrap it on the cleat behind the windward winch. This will satisfy your
need to bump wind. WRAP IT, don't tie it. It will hold!

You probably don't have positive flotation. Don't be to worried about
it. You won't capsize. Capsizing is for Blue Water Sailing with very
strong wind and huge wave action. Like I said you have to worry about
being knocked down. We call it,"Spearing Salmon with the spreaders"
here
in the Northwest.

Tell us more about your boat and its rigging. Most boats today are
equipped with furling head sail, so that you can roll up part of the
Genny


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