"prodigal1" wrote in message
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Greg wrote:

stop the presses!

Getting carried away, with the "everyone" aren't you?

I wish you were as incisive at answering my points as you are parsing my
English. Would "a large majority of Americans" do?

about someone robbing them, invading their homes, "terrorizing"
them- you've been cultured to fear the "other" -you feel you have to
protect yourself at all times- as a result many of you feel it okay

to

have unlimited access to guns-guns-guns and then stand there with
uncomprehending looks on your faces when nice people get hurt with

guns.

Another paint brush swipe. What "uncomprehending" looks?

So then my mistake? People in the States aren't concerned about how it is
that so many Americans are being killed by one another? People in the
States just throw up their hands and go "Oh well...just another
drive-by...just another domestic that got out of control...whoops just
another ****ass punk with a gun he bought for $25...? Too bad for the
dead guy? Is that it?

Where do you get this crap? We here in the States don't look at it that way
at all. But the solution isn't gun control. Just goes to show how the media
in other countries do not accurately represent what goes on over here.


You play while
driving a car, you might crash and die, run with scissors, an electic
socket, boat without life vests or raft/dingy, ditto. You "play" with a
gun, the same. What's to comprehend? Bad things happen in life all the
time, why do you choose to demonize guns?

Because guns when used as designed, kill people. Cars when used as
designed get you from A to B. Scissors cut paper...!! Who said anything
about "playing" with guns?

Right. That's how one is able to protect one's self using one.


try answering a previous question of mine

suggest reasons why all those other countries cited in Michael

Moore's

"Bowling for Columbine" have gun violence rates 10-100X lower than

the USA?

I'm going way out on a limb here and say ----- "People aren't shooting
people!"

d'ya think? and maybe the reason they're not shooting each other is
because....they can't get easy access to guns? Oh wait, if you saw the
film you'd know that in Canada there are more guns per capita than in the
US. Maybe there's something about living in a climate that can kill you
in 20mins in January that causes people to learn to live together.

Rather than grant guns some type of evil powers,

I didn't say that.

I would question why
people in our society are so much more violent. But then, that doesn't
fit in a 30 second sound bite as it forces folks to address a whole
range of issues from broken familys to a society that bends over
backwards to excuse unacceptable behavior.

agreed, but you better watch that have/have-not stuff or you're going to
be critcised as some sort of Liberal deviant that hates America.

Saudia Arabia would chop your head off for murder. No "he wasn't loved"
or "his skin is a different color" or "he was spanked as a child
goodness gracious!".
Just chop chop chop and there you go.

pot-kettle-black you guys are keeping death rows fairly busy too eh

It's so much easier to say GUNS ARE EVIL, pass the legislation and go
home feeling so good about doing --- NOTHING. Then the sick *******s
start knifing people, then using clubs, then poison, then propane tank
bombs, then cars to squish people.

Stats from other countries show support for this idea but the reates of
crime are still far lower. Why is that?

Where do you draw the line? Like Mr. Morris, when it impacts his
convenience and quality of life?
To rehash old info, up to the 50's, you could by guns EVERYWHERE, drug
stores, gas stations, etc. Instead of taking the slack assed lazy way
out, I would start looking at what has changed in the US since that
time that would cause such an increase in violent behavoir - but that
might solve something.

True, but in the meantime doing something like they have here in Canada
about restricting access to firearms in a significant fashion means that
people don't have easy access to deadly weapons. The stats tell the tale.
Handgun based crime in this country is fueled by illegal importation of
these weapons from the US.

By the way, I know a guy that faced a home invasion here in town. He
didn't fall for the "answer the late night knock on the door" and while
returning to his room for his pistol, they kicked the door open. He
returned to the door and started receiving rifle fire from outside and
then a second guy already in the house tried to jump him - but the
target had his pistol. One BG down, the shooter still loose and most
likely plying his trade elsewhere.
The victim now owns about 12 dogs and always carries a concealed
weapon.
Don't underestimate or disregard the impact of violent crime.

But this is my point. Even in a violent city like Detroit, it is the
minority of people who have been victims of stickups, home invasions etc.
Yet the news trumpets the stories and where one person is a victim,
thousands perhaps are made to feel fear and insecurity. Answer: Run for
the gunz. Are they more secure? No. Are their families more at risk
because of the presence of a firearm in the house. Yes.